Most of the high HP guys don't even know what ET they are getting or really care, 1000+ hp and your picking up all your speed on the back end so lots of guys don't even bother launching just roll easy, shortshift and then go full boost 3-6 gears. I know all the UGR guys and high hp GTR guys do very soft rollons, get "beat" to the end but only one guy is thinking he "won".

Texas miles is the big boy ET 1500ft race

 

Some guys do want to heads up race that's great and fun. But for me and most I know who attend, the 1/2 mile is a great place to measure the cars power. Also to compare against others set-ups/tunes or their own set-up/adjustments and advancements. With ET traction is more a key element and in racing driver skill and reaction again more. With trap speed you have a more true measuring stick IMHO. Not to mention a safe place to gatger data and really let it out. Either way the events are awesome especially when you can see how cars stack up against each other on roll outs. Better than getting an issue of Car&Driver out!

 

with pdk cars having 1.4and 1.5 60 ft times et at the 1/8 in the 5 sec range porsches arent losing anything in the first half of the race. the main reason the ugr or gtr or porsche for that matter like to roll off easy is simple. you dont break parts that way. (wheelies are proof that they are launching as hard as they can!)

 

Are you sure this happens all the time? Perhaps some situations where the UGR/GTR lines up with any car at random and ignores the car in the other lane and is simply focused on testing and making a successful pass.


However, I can tell you from personal experience as someone who seeks out the UGR Lambos and 1,XXX GTRs, bikes, 918s and even 1,XXX Porsche 911's with my little 650 hp 997.2, that they are absolutely trying to beat me to the finish line. Sometimes I lose. But probably more than half the time I win. And I post vids of my races win or lose.


These guys are all cool and acknowledge their car didn't have enough to get me. Some who lost even challenge me to another race after hours of tweaking like raising power and/or changing launch settings, etc.


Another note is that some of these guys politely decline a race offer from me because they have a strong feeling I will win and most of these cars are actually run at the events by shops/tuners not the actual owners of the car and don't want a vid of their very expensive build getting beat by a street car with street tires and cats and barely $10K in mods.

 

Lingborder, oh no your correct it's definitely not every race but I'd say half the time maybe the other car doesn't care what the first car is doing. You have a deadly dialed in setup, no question about that. Your making what 600-650whp and beating 800whp cars due to your launch, flat powerband and pdk.

But it let's not get carried away, those 1000+ gtrs won't get beat by a 650whp Porsche if they launch properly. I was racing last shift sector in my 700whp 997 6sp and I purposely lined up with exotics and did a slow easy launch just to make it fun and catch them before the flag. I had a great race with a huracan where I had my eyes on him and as soon as he launched I rolled it, he pulled 15 cars on me right away and I had a blast gunning him down and barely got him at the flags. He tapped 157 i trapped 164, i still heard people saying he almost won without realizing what was happening.

 

And yeah turbo Lambo's can't launch at all. Technically they can but the tranny can't handle it. UGR has some dialed in stage 1-3 huracans with dtc supposedly but their X cars run sequential dog boxes.

 

Interesting topic. Im OK with vbox as its been proven reliable time and time again, where as event timing has not.

I would like to see, if only an event slip is provided, than that event has to be verified, as in either by the event host, with a matching vbox+slip, or another vehicle on the same date with slip/vbox to match. You know my thoughts on why already.

I think its nice to see ET for the 1/2, and with vbox its already there, so might as well add it in, but i dont think it would be required. We are the only US events to offer ET for the 1/2, and that is because we use the exact same system as Dragtimes Russia/ Unlim500.

 

Agreed no all-wheel drive UGR Lambo or 1,000+ GTR on proper tires should lose to a car with half the power on a half mile run. But that's the beauty of racing a very high horsepower car on an unprepped surface. The launch for them is tricky. Before racing these guys I tell them not to hold back. They are fully away I'm video'ing and I plan to get them hard out of the hole and win the race.

 

racing is racing anything can happen, there are faster cars losing to slower cars every day on the street.


not to mention the guys who think they have a 1000hp because they were shown a dyno sheet, but their car really left the shop on a turned down 800hp setting for safety

 

I'm with you 100%. In another subforum here we were persecuted for asking for vBox verification of 1/2 mile runs from a local SoCal event and another event....even tho the owners had vboxes.


From a local half mile event, my vBox is generally spot on, but I got one timeslip out of maybe 20 runs that didn't jive with my vbox by OVER 3mph. It's weird but it happens, and my guess is that it has happened to others yet these outlier results stand because the owners won't post their vbox.

 

yea it gets tricky, I think there will be a marker that will say if the times were vbox verified or not. to really claim a record of some sort the claimant should want to provide as much backup as possible so its is not questioned.


Here is what I have so far:


1/2 Mile List Porsches:

202.9 - Mcoupe mus / VBOX VERIFIED / 997TT / AWD / PTE6870s / Syvecs / 1250+ WHP / Sequential
196.3 - Enzo / 997TT / AWD / GT35s / SYVECS / 1200+ WHP / 6 speed
195.7 - ysfg35 / 997TT / AWD / PTE6466s / SYVECS / 1050+ WHP / Tiptronic
192.5 - Tim941NYC / VBOX VERIFIED / 996TT / AWD / GT35s / MOTEC / 1360 WHP / 6 speed
191.7 - BHT / VBOX VERIFIED / 996TT / RWD / GT35s / STOCK ECU PROTO/ 1000+ WHP / 6 speed
186.0 - MCGT3 / 996TT / RWD / GT35s / STOCK ECU PROTO/ 1000+ WHP / 6 speed
182.1 - 9ff / 997TT / 1400hp
177.0 - Webcarconnection / 991TTS / AWD / By Design Stage 4 68HTA/ COBB / 730 WHP / PDK
175.6 - White991TT / 991TTS / AWD / By Design Stage 4 65HTZ / COBB / 680 WHP / PDK
175.5 - Markblackwell / 991TTS / AWD / By Design Stage 4 68HTZ / COBB / 750 WHP / PDK
167.9 - iLoX / 997.2TT / AWD / Stock Turbos / ESMotor Tune ES650 / 650HP / PDK
163.0 - therock88 / 997TT / AWD / Stock Turbos / Softronic + Bolt Ons / 500 + WHP / Tiptronic
160.2 - THEWHEEL22 / 997TT / AWD / Stock Turbos / COBB 100oct & Bolt Ons / 500+ WHP / Tiptronic
159.3 - Paintballzen / 997TT / AWD / Stock Turbos / COBB & Kline / 500+ WHP / 6 speed
153.0 - 99Gdzra / 997.2TTS / AWD / Stock Turbos / COBB & Europipe / 550 WHP / PDK
148.3 - AZ996TT / 997TT / AWD / Stock Turbos / Stock ECU / 400+ WHP / Tiptronic

 

 

Black, is this your car? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5T6fLHOSYk

its crazy people are stuffing 1000+ whp on the 997 platform with its tiny wheelbase and twitchy handling.

 

The best part is that he posedt the full vbox run in another thread, and it showed exactly what i said it would, that the record is 173, not 176 lol.

For the record, i was at wannagofast ocala last weekend, and their stuff read just as accurate as ours, and you know i would be the 1st to call them out on it. every run was within .5mph.

it would be nice if the 3 big standing 1/2 hosts could just agree to run a verification run, say 100mph through each lane, vbox and slip should match up, thats for each day of course. there are till ways around it, but its at least a start.

 

The transmission can handle it but they are set up for 1/2 role racing (boost by gear)

i launched my Gallardos many times and never had an issue