Very bad accident with 997 Turbo cabrio in Greece
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if u hate Greeks or Greece it is better to stay there and stop embarassing us who are real Greeks.. (beeing a greek, living there for years, etc)
Stfu clown ! Real Greek? I can show you real Greek garagiozi anytime ! An accident ? He was flying on a public road doing double the speed limit and apparently racing an r8,and cost the lives of innocent family ! Originally Posted by Aisxos
You should go to hell mate.. this was an accident. The guys in porsche (22 years old) didnt do that on purpose.. they lost their lives too.. Btw all the media and government (you are wrong again) care about the family.. they claim that reach people dont care about rules and regulations and that they dont respect others life... which is so wrong... if u hate Greeks or Greece it is better to stay there and stop embarassing us who are real Greeks.. (beeing a greek, living there for years, etc)
Also again clown , I'm guessing you have not lost a family member to some young punk flying and being irresponsible . Like passing when their not supposed too , or on vouliagmeni two cars racing one t bones an innocent kid getting off work .
So fk off mate ! Btw your screen name fits you well , aisxos is right !
10 years!! old V-rated (max 240 kph) winter tires!!?No grip whatsoever... Speeding ( and possibly racing another car) 280 kph, over twice the public road's speed limit is irresponsible, plain stupid and can't be defended with any excuses. The driver got what he deserved, unfortunately three other people died.
On this one, I am going to have to go with the camp of irresponsible wealthy *****, driving dad's high end car with little regard for anyone else (including his friend in the car).
It is unfortunate others had to die. I feel for all of those that died here, but also find it hard to defend the Porsche driver for any reason?
Hard to call it an "accident" on his part. He "accidentally" drove that fast? I am sure he did not plan on dying..(that was the accident)..I doubt the car accidentally continued to accelerate on the highway...
And as UNVMY996 indicates...all of the articles and reports I have seen, Do in fact, start with SON of the millionaire...yadayadayada...oh and a mother and her child were also killed. Pretty pathetic. God bless those that were killed, and the survivors that have to live with it.
DC
It is unfortunate others had to die. I feel for all of those that died here, but also find it hard to defend the Porsche driver for any reason?
Hard to call it an "accident" on his part. He "accidentally" drove that fast? I am sure he did not plan on dying..(that was the accident)..I doubt the car accidentally continued to accelerate on the highway...
And as UNVMY996 indicates...all of the articles and reports I have seen, Do in fact, start with SON of the millionaire...yadayadayada...oh and a mother and her child were also killed. Pretty pathetic. God bless those that were killed, and the survivors that have to live with it.
DC
I'm sure we have all been over 120 mph on a desolate road. Our intentions aren't to go into a sideways spin into a rest stop. I've driven from Thessaloniki to Athens, an approximately 5h drive. During that 5h drive on a brand new perfect highway I may have encountered 20-30 cars, maybe. That being said I can assure you anyone on this board with a 911 turbo would exceed 120mph a few times. Especially since Greek traffic police are non existent.
As for the old tires, he borrowed his dad's car. Who in the world would even think about checking the tires, you would just assume they are capable of whatever the car can throw at them.
He was the son of a rich man, spoiled privileged etc. So what. I hope no one here blows a tire at 120+ mph speeds, it's unfortunate what happened. 90 percent of people on this board would top out their cars on that highway I assure you that. The kid just got dealt a bad hand and the woman and her son an even worst one.
As for the old tires, he borrowed his dad's car. Who in the world would even think about checking the tires, you would just assume they are capable of whatever the car can throw at them.
He was the son of a rich man, spoiled privileged etc. So what. I hope no one here blows a tire at 120+ mph speeds, it's unfortunate what happened. 90 percent of people on this board would top out their cars on that highway I assure you that. The kid just got dealt a bad hand and the woman and her son an even worst one.
I have come back to this thread a couple of times, intending to post but then deciding not to. However I thought I would offer a couple of thoughts:
1. When my kids approached driving age, I made it clear of the deadly responsibility that operating and auto would bring. I likened it to piloting a military jet, where knowing the controls and characteristics of the vehicle as well as having total situational awareness was paramount to being safe and keeping others safe.
2. Even back in the '70's when I began to drive, I took it upon myself to become the best driver I could be. I cared about the particulars of whatever car I was operating, whether it be my Dad's 911, my Mom's station wagon or the affectionately termed "Sun****" car for the kids. Each operated and handled completely differently, from the agile and quick 911 to the poor wet road performance of the Sunbird on bias ply tires. I adapted my driving habits accordingly (at 16 years of age).
I think there are too many drivers who are operating a vehicle with much less regard to understanding the details of the car they are driving and engage in activities while driving that reduce their situational awareness. Yes, you would expect a vehicle like a 911 to have appropriate rubber, but if you intend to operate it at high speeds, you better make sure of that. If you don't know the potential danger of an old tire or the difference between a winter or summer tire, then you have no right to be driving at the limit of your equipment, period. If you want to do that, do it at a track where you are much less likely to endanger anyone else but yourself.
So while the rich kid aspect of this story may be a lighting rod, for me it is a combination of the lack of awareness on so many levels along with lack of skill (not just skill to handle the car, but the skill to know what you are driving, that is the largest concern). You could be in a 1985 Camry and still have the same outcome if you don't care enough to be aware of what you are driving and what your and the car's limitations are.
Regardless of all of this, the tragic accident was completely unnecessary and avoidable, there were no other circumstances interfering with the 911 staying on the road other than the driver's lack of care, skill, awareness and poor decision making, period.
Ed
1. When my kids approached driving age, I made it clear of the deadly responsibility that operating and auto would bring. I likened it to piloting a military jet, where knowing the controls and characteristics of the vehicle as well as having total situational awareness was paramount to being safe and keeping others safe.
2. Even back in the '70's when I began to drive, I took it upon myself to become the best driver I could be. I cared about the particulars of whatever car I was operating, whether it be my Dad's 911, my Mom's station wagon or the affectionately termed "Sun****" car for the kids. Each operated and handled completely differently, from the agile and quick 911 to the poor wet road performance of the Sunbird on bias ply tires. I adapted my driving habits accordingly (at 16 years of age).
I think there are too many drivers who are operating a vehicle with much less regard to understanding the details of the car they are driving and engage in activities while driving that reduce their situational awareness. Yes, you would expect a vehicle like a 911 to have appropriate rubber, but if you intend to operate it at high speeds, you better make sure of that. If you don't know the potential danger of an old tire or the difference between a winter or summer tire, then you have no right to be driving at the limit of your equipment, period. If you want to do that, do it at a track where you are much less likely to endanger anyone else but yourself.
So while the rich kid aspect of this story may be a lighting rod, for me it is a combination of the lack of awareness on so many levels along with lack of skill (not just skill to handle the car, but the skill to know what you are driving, that is the largest concern). You could be in a 1985 Camry and still have the same outcome if you don't care enough to be aware of what you are driving and what your and the car's limitations are.
Regardless of all of this, the tragic accident was completely unnecessary and avoidable, there were no other circumstances interfering with the 911 staying on the road other than the driver's lack of care, skill, awareness and poor decision making, period.
Ed
Out of respect to the families may we shut this thread down now?
Agreed, report post and shut it down.
Hey Rig.Stunts... looks like we're neighbors. I'm also in North Van
Hey Rig.Stunts... looks like we're neighbors. I'm also in North Van
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I have deleted the post, and I have edited your quotation of the post to remove it and list as spam.Originally Posted by vrybad
Is your post a very bad joke?Or an unwelcome advertisement?
Johnny
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