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Old May 31, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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Audi R8 beats 997TT in recent C&D article...

Pretty suprising track times. What do you lot make of this?? Not trying to start a ZO6/997TT-esque thread, just letting you guys know about some other choices out there, especially when the V8 R8 was not supposed to be this fast.

http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread....6410#post96410

1st Place
Audi R8 - 220 Points
Base Price - $109,720
Tested Price - $120,970
0-60 - 4.3
0-100 - 10.7
1/4 Mile 12.8 @ 112 mph
5-60 - 4.8
70-0 - 160 feet
300 ft skidpad - .97
Willow Springs International Raceway Lap Time - 1:35.76/94.0 mph
Lane change (mph) - 66.7
Observed miles per gallon - 14

Highs
Ballet-dancer balance and grace, eager responses, telepathic steering, internal combustion rarely sounds better.

Lows
Proportions awkward from some angles, uncomfortable dead-pedal height, blind in the rear quarters.

Verdict
Sports-car perfection from an unexpected source.

2nd Place
Porsche 911 Turbo - 210 Points
Base Price - $123,760
Tested Price - $141,510
0-60 - 3.8
0-100 - 9.2
1/4 Mile 12.2 @ 117 mph
5-60 - 4.8
70-0 - 159 feet
300 ft skidpad - .98
Willow Springs International Raceway Lap Time - 1:38.53/91.3 mph
Lane change (mph) - 65.0
Observed miles per gallon - 14

Highs
Omigawd thrust, never-fade brakes, limpet grip, gorgeous interior treatment, maximum Porsche mystique.

Lows
Spooky at the limits of adhesion, high interior noise levels, Prussian ride quality, snoot scrapes on driveway ramps.

Verdict
For 911 addicts who have no wish to be cured, Porsche Sturm und Drang just doesn't get any better than this.

3rd Place
Aston Martin V8 Vantage - 191 Points
Base Price - $117,150
Tested Price - $129,110
0-60 - 5.1
0-100 - 12.3
1/4 Mile 13.5 @ 106 mph
5-60 - 5.8
70-0 - 165 feet
300 ft skidpad - .93
Willow Springs International Raceway Lap Time - 1:40.73/89.4 mph
Lane change (mph) - 64.1
Observed miles per gallon - 13

Highs
Appealingly edgy update on classic GT-coupe shape, smooth operator on rough payment, irresistible V8 growl.

Lows
A bit too much body roll, nervous under hard braking, short on muscle among these heavy lifters.

Verdict
A stylish GT sophisticate that's a little out of its depth among these thoroughbreds.

Track times from EVO magazine:

0-100mph: 10.4s

Bedford West Circuit: 1.22,1min

For comparison...
F430F1 1.24,2min
Porsche 997 Turbo 1.23,55min
Porsche 997 GT3 1.23,1min
Ferrari 599GTB 1.23,1min
Lamborghini Gallardo(520hp) 1.22,8min
 
Old May 31, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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I would like to add that while surprising these figures should be taken with a grain of salt--especially the EVO times. As we all know, conditions and drivers can make a big difference. I am pretty sure that the list of track times compiled by EVO are acquired at the time they review the car. The GT3, Ferraris, etc. could have been tested months ago.

However, 3 almost 3 sec is nothing to scoff at (referring to the C&D times).
 
Old May 31, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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Come talk to me in 10 years when the 997TT still looks sharp and the R8 looks like a DeLorean...
 
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Come talk to me in 10 years when the 997TT still looks sharp and the R8 looks like a DeLorean...
Yup, imho the the R8 is flat out ugly.
 
Old May 31, 2007 | 06:52 PM
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Those lap times are to be taken with some scrutiny. There are Rustangs and Miatas turning low 1:30's with relative ease at Willow Springs. While the R8 sounds like a good handling car, 3 seconds is an eternity. More likely these guys just can't drive worth a damn.
 
Old May 31, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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Gotta love bench racing! I have read a lot of b.s. in press before but c'mon.............3 seconds faster around Willow springs? please. sounds like the driver had a handicap.
 
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Originally Posted by eclou
Those lap times are to be taken with some scrutiny. There are Rustangs and Miatas turning low 1:30's with relative ease at Willow Springs. While the R8 sounds like a good handling car, 3 seconds is an eternity. More likely these guys just can't drive worth a damn.
posted a few seconds before me............I gotta be faster!
 
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I love Audis, but I'm not a huge fan of the looks of the R8. Plus, torque is everything and a small displacement normally aspirated V8 just doesn't have what it takes for me. Kudos to Audi though.
 
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where there's smoke there's fire...

personally i'd be watching as more and more of these track tests of the R8 surface. so maybe its not 3 seconds faster than the beloved Turbo around Willow. but preliminary indications are that its no slouch.

and that's before the car has gotten the V10 from the Gallardo!

i'm not bowled over by the looks... but credit where its due.
 
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ill keep my 997 Turbo thanks
 
Old May 31, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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These results are staggerin, as the Road & Track times showed the R8 to be slower than a C4S. 3 seconds FASTER than a turbo is crazy.
 
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These results are staggerin, as the Road & Track times showed the R8 to be slower than a C4S. 3 seconds FASTER than a turbo is crazy.
very true. if it cant beat a C4S theres not a snow ***** chance in hell that it would be 3 seconds faster than a turbo at willow.
 
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The mag drivers didn't have enough ***** to drive the turbo hard. Should have used pros or somebody with 911 track experience. These guys were scared sh*tless of the back end coming around and probably lifted at the time they should have been accelerating. An old saying in Porsche circles is "always keep the finger in the flame"
 
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you will NOT find a bigger audi enthusiast than me, and i choose NOT to believe that
i think the 997tt is a faster car around a track
considering that i have driven , and sold both
 
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Originally Posted by Chris from Cali
Come talk to me in 10 years when the 997TT still looks like every other 99x for the past 20 years...

what you meant to say. . . At least the R8 has the ***** to be different and IMO looks pretty sick.
 


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