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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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C2 or C4 in NY/Long Island Area?

Looking into buying a 2005 C2...live in NY/Long Island area.

Question...the C2 better fits my budget...would this be a decent car to drive in inclement weather? Mind you Im not speaking about 8" of snow...but should the weather be less than optimal...maybe 2-3 inches on the ground...w/snow tires on...could a c2 safely transport me around?

Anyone with personal experience that could shed light, id like to hear as much as i can! Obviously a c4 would be best but considering my options..
 
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With the right tires, a RWD 911 will tear through snow better than most cars on the road. It has the advantage of having the majority of its weight sitting over (and behind) the drive wheels.
 
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Yup, it will definitely be a daily driver.

This dealer I posed the question said this: "All 911's are factory equipped with performance tires.Porsche recommends winter tires for northeast driving conditions in winter, including c2 or c4 models. With the proper tires, a 911 c2 would be traction worthy because of its rear weight bias."
 
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I was in the same boat when i bought mine in December. I test drove an 08 c4s, then an 08 c2s... the cars are way different. In my opinion the 4 had less pickup and felt heavy. It also had tremendous understeer. The 2 was right on the money, i peeled out by accident 3 times during the road test, i was going to the dealer with all intent of the 4 cause of the wider rear. Ended up with a 2 and i couldnt be happier. To tell u the truth when it rains i dont really wanna drive the car just cause its not fun, when it snows i just dont drive it. I did once and it felt real loose (sport tires on). Test drive both then make the decision. Good luck
 
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I have used my 08 C4 as a family car in Westchester for the last 9 months, even going to school and malls with it. It was a temporary arrangement anyway as I will be moving back to Europe with it now. Winter driving was fine even without winter tyres as roads are overly salted and maintained. The only real issues were the (very) poor condition of I95, washing and de-salting the car in winter (you don't want to bring it to car wash), very loud whistling noise of the Porsche ski-holder and people at supermarkets asking why you put your groceries into your engine.
 
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Originally Posted by philcr2800
and people at supermarkets asking why you put your groceries into your engine.
hahahaha that happened when i had my cayenne in for service and had a cayman as a loaner....it was so funny.

well yeah i figured the awd would feel heavier than the c2....im not going to be driving in a blanket of snow but i want to know should i be about in the winter and it decides to snow that i wont be stranded anywhere!

i do like the wider rear of the c4....looks gorgeous....but i dont think its worth spending the extra cash just for that....if i had it just laying around i definitely would but i have to be financially responsible in this time of recession
 
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I have driven a 2S Cabrio through two Long Island winters. The summer tires are useless on snow and ice. Been stuck in my own driveway. There are maybe a dozen days or so in a typical winter that you just can't use it without the proper tires. If it is your only car, get a second set of wheels with winter tires.
 
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You'll be fine with a C2, but for year round driving a C4 will certainly make your life easier. I have a C4 with Michelin Pilot Alpins on in the winter and it great in the snow. Whatever route you choose, you NEED snow tires.
 
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I have been interested in this too, I read an article about the C2 in the snow up here in Toronto. Farther North than NY, but comparable I would imagine:

"Handling in the snow is another story. All-wheel-drive 911s are effortless in snow – point-and-shoot machines that'll run circles around most cars (and most SUVs) so long as there's enough ground clearance to be moving. Driving a two-wheel-drive 911, however, requires a lot more concentration. Without any power up front to help pull the car straight out of turns, you find yourself constantly dancing with the steering, always correcting and guiding the car's path while trying to avoid the nearest snowbank.

The latest version of Porsche's stability-control system gives you a lot of leeway with the rear end before it starts to apply individual brakes and modulate the throttle to save you, making for a lot of excitement even with it turned on.

It's an immensely involving, challenging experience that rewards skillful driving – but it's also a lot of work. You emerge from drives that would be a snooze in normal cars sweaty-palmed, with all your senses on alert."

(http://www.wheels.ca/reviews/article/198025)
 
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Sounds good. So the consensus seems as though i can survive through Long Island winters...for the most part....with a decent set of snow tires?

Ive had a jag xkr and a bmw e46 m3 for the few past winters..never bothered putting on snow tires but there were some REALLY scary moments....although with the rear weight bias of the 997 c2 and a good set of snow tires i suppose ill be able to bear out most of the winter
 
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how much are you looking to spend on a 05 997s.
 
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on a c2s....$60-65 max
 
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aight..cuz am selling my 06 c2s 6speed..$69500.21000miles.if you want any pictures of my car.just sent me your email..thx.. mods are factory gt3 kits w/extension lip from the gt3rs.fabspeed mufflers + fabspeed cold air intake w/ bmc racing filter, carbon fiber rear diffuser(only 3 in the states).sport adaptic seats.(heated) bose, chrono package,aluminum package.sport shifter..etc..
 
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going back to the bmw family...
 


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