Well, this was just talking to a Porsche rep, so i'm sure the info was a bit biased but many of the salespeople that attend attest to it also. Like i said, it was more of a latest gadget purchase than anything else. If i ever get to the track again, too dam busy latley, we'll see how they really perform. I will say that if I have an issue with the rotor's from normal DE track duty and Porsche doesnt step up to the plate, i will not get them on the next one, ok well maybe, I HATE BRAKE DUST!

BTW, you are talking to probobly one of the least interested people in the Burgh about football. Around here i get told at least once a week that my car is like a Steeler Mobile, with the yellow and black interior. One more comment and I'm going Red or White next time. Go Steelers

 

Thats for the rotors only no installation cost. The install cost should be the same, unless of course you just change out the actual rotor on the pccb's and reuse the stainless hats, then the labor may be higher, that i dont know.

 

I think maybe we ought to trade cities, I love Florida and get increasingly sick of the cold weather every year and could care less about football. If i wasnt tracking my car down there then I would be out in my Cigarette boat blasting down the coast. Hey, to each their own.

Was mkk62 using stock pads or aftermarket and did Porsche do anything for him under warranty?

 

Well that does really suck. If they wouldnt replace them, especially if my car has little mileage on it, I would have to go balistic on them.

Yea, unfortunatly the parents i picked when i was born were from here. But we did spend alot of time there and i try to go a few times a year. I actually want to come and run Sebring, great course.

 

When you get ready to come done and run Sebring let me know and I will help you however I can. Take care, Mike

 

I loved the PCCB's on my GT3. On my previous carrera, I use to switch out pads with Pagid yellows when I went to the track, but the PCCB's were great on the track without having to do any switching out of pads. There was absolutely no fade and they had great stopping power. However, I really can't comment on the durability as I didn't track it enough to notice any wear.

 

See that is what I was hoping for with PCCB's but in real life DE's like I do this was not the case. The PCCB pads are lasting guys a few DE's and they must be changed at 50% wear. And then there is the issue of the rotor wear. The Padig Yellow pads are what I use too and they cost less and wear longer and stop as good or better than PCCB's. However changing out pads on my red S calipers is faster than changing out the wheel.

 

Thank you for the offer and I will take you up on it some day. Hopefully will be able to make it this fall or winter since you bastards down there can run year round!

Thanks
Bruce

 

they look cool but that's about it. next time I'll pass on the PCCB's

 

Yep track events and boating year around! I will even take you for a boat ride!

 

hi Mike trying not to get addicted to these sites

and MDRUMS is right, my pccb's were toast after 6 DE's but 11k miles on car... long story and i cannot disclose all the details due to non diclosure but after a lot of calls have replaced the front rotors...msrp to replace is 10K...

next time steel...there are some that have had good luck with the ceramics one guy with around 40k and multiple track days but i think i am pretty tough on the equipment and will try to change my technique on braking....

i had a previous 997s with reds and was great....yellow caliper paint is cheap if you like the color....my next track car is probably a miata ...also still having engine oil issues (use about 1.5-2 qts the last 2 track days...*each time) have the dealership "monitoring the engine now hopefully like others will get better with more mileage....
next porsche is a gt3 with steels....

 

Not this **** again. those who don't have them will likely say they are a waste of money. those who have them likely would not get another car without them. I have them. I won't get another without them. If I never had them I likely would never know the difference. I do think you can feel the biggest difference when exiting a corner. that unsprung weight differential is IMO tangible. I like not having brake dust.

 

Last week I began getting my monthly deluge of car magazines and I think, correct me if I'm wrong, that Car and Driver has an article on brakes. They run several cycles of 70-0 and 100-0 stops for luxury SUV's, sedans and performance cars.

Their performance car article includes a 997S with standard steel rotors and a 997s with PCCB. According to their tests, there is almost no benefit to the PCCB system other than diminished brake dust.

I don't track my car and can't imagine ever using more brakes than the standard brakes on my 997S has. But that's just me.

 

I'm about to buy a used 997 911S (05 or 06). I think the yellow Ceramics look great and I love the fact that they have less dust. On the other hand, 10k/rotor is a show stopper for me...

Unless... Since I see no significant difference in asking price for 911S with steel or Ceramics, I could buy a car with the ceramic and if they needed changing down the road, I could just replace the rotors with the steel instead. Is that possible? I hope so.

If so, I'd obviously like to avoid buying defective ceramic break fitted car.
Does a Porsche pre-sale inspection look at the rotors? Would a simple test drive be sufficient to know?

I'd appreciate your help. Thanks,

Joseph

 

Not sure if I read the same article. The article I did read came up with the same performance conclusions and the only difference being 37lbs.