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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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Take a look at this article on CNBC.com: "Looking For A Used Car? Look To Pay More"
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29097964
"Used vehicle prices have bottomed out and are moving higher." The basic premise of the short article is that people can't afford new cars now, so they are buying more used cars instead.
 
Old Feb 9, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by yrralis1
That's under dealer cost . There has to be more-- like a trade in low ball or the car was "punched" ????

Why would a dealership take a loss on a car ? Odd color? Unusual options? Damaged at port?

Why didn't you buy it?
What does "punched" mean? Demo car which is now used?
 
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Originally Posted by 911dev
What does "punched" mean? Demo car which is now used?
In a nutshell it means that they have started the cars in service date.
 
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Thanks for all the great info here. I've been looking for an '07 coupe (either S or non-S) and this thread has been a huge help!
 
Old Feb 9, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by phil_m
In a nutshell it means that they have started the cars in service date.
Why? So they could book the sale with Porsche NA?
 
Old Feb 9, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by phil_m
I've tried. I figure my car had an MSRP of 95, and I was looking at a turbo that was the same year and similar miles with an original sticker of 135. I figure my car has taken about a 36% hit since new and I would guess the turbo should be about the same which would have made the gap between both cars about 25k. I offered my car plus 30, and they told me to take a hike they were thinking more like 40, and didn't want to budge. The salesperson said that right now the thing that is hurting me is my car. They really don't want to take in anything on trade right now because they still can't get rid of the 08's on the lot.
This scenario was me back in 07. Local dealerrship did not even have a car . I had to drive an hour just to find a new Turbo on ther lot. They all let me walk at 30. The differeence now is the economy and some dealershis have used 07's that are not moving .
I finally bought it but I hear ya -it's a hard deciosion.
 
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Originally Posted by CMOS
Take a look at this article on CNBC.com: "Looking For A Used Car? Look To Pay More"
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29097964
"Used vehicle prices have bottomed out and are moving higher." The basic premise of the short article is that people can't afford new cars now, so they are buying more used cars instead.
Since I'm in the market for a used Porsche, I'm talking my own book here, but I can't resist -

CNBC is not a credible authority on anything.

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Since I'm in the market for a used Porsche, I'm talking my own book here, but I can't resist -

CNBC is not a credible authority on anything.

Jon
CNBC is great entertainment but that's about it. I have never made a dime watching CNBC but always enjoyed the show.
 
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Originally Posted by jdcooper
Since I'm in the market for a used Porsche, I'm talking my own book here, but I can't resist -

CNBC is not a credible authority on anything.

Jon
Totally agree. I think in this case though used cars may actually bounce back a little but only if its for something that may be a necessity. So I would think Hondas, Toyota, etc.. Unfortunately I can't see people who are in a pinch and need a vehicle strictly for transportation from point a to b to require a Porsche but we can always hope.
 
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Originally Posted by phil_m
Unfortunately I can't see people who are in a pinch and need a vehicle strictly for transportation from point a to b to require a Porsche but we can always hope.
Dunno, that was pretty much my situation! Two months ago, I was driving a 2003 BMW 330 sedan. Car had 55k miles, with the original rotors. I was due for a $1600 brake service and needed a new rear PS2 that would run $225. Something else had gone wrong with the aftermarket Dinan suspension and it was making noises, that would have cost ??. What's the 60k mile service run you at BMW? So add that in as well.

So rather than dump at least $2k into a car that carmax was offering $10k for, I got the 997. I didn't want to spend $108k for a new one, so I got a used one. I mean, I really had no choice but to get a C4S. What else was I going to do
 

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Originally Posted by CMOS
Take a look at this article on CNBC.com: "Looking For A Used Car? Look To Pay More"
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29097964
"Used vehicle prices have bottomed out and are moving higher." The basic premise of the short article is that people can't afford new cars now, so they are buying more used cars instead.
I've spoken two a couple of wholesale dealers recently that echo the same thing. Wholesale prices are up 10-15 percent since mid-November.
 
Old Feb 9, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CMOS
Here's $9k off a new 2009 C2s, without even asking:
http://www.princetonporsche.com/new/...TOKEN=88114209#
Maybe there's another $5k off just for asking.
Here's another for an additional $10k discount, with just 2500 miles.
 
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Originally Posted by keninirvine
Here's another for an additional $10k discount, with just 2500 miles.
do you have the link?
 
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Originally Posted by mookie
I've spoken two a couple of wholesale dealers recently that echo the same thing. Wholesale prices are up 10-15 percent since mid-November.
Perhaps it's a case of "as goes the equity market, so goes the used Porsche market". I'm bearish on the former, which explains my price expectation toward the latter.

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do you have the link?
Sorry, I thought I had posted it. I'll try again. Sorry it is so long, but it is from a search I did.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...&seller_type=b
 


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