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Old May 4, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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2007 GT3 CPO or new 2009 C2S?

For roughly the same money. The CPO car has about 5k miles on it and is in perfect shape. Which would you choose??
 
Old May 4, 2009 | 10:03 AM
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IMO, there really isn't a comparison because I think that they are targeting different markets. The GT3 is a true track car and as such, many people will not consider the car suitable for everyday driving. The C2S on the other hand is arguably the best sports car that can be driven everyday. So you have to ask yourself which one are you. Personally, I'd rather have the GT3 because that is the pinnacle of the the normally aspirated car from Porsche, but that's just me. Plus, it's already seen some steep depreciation which makes it more attractive to me.
 
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Depr on the GT3's isn't that much, not nearly as much as any other 911. For example this car that I'm looking at had an MSRP of $118K and can be bought for $90K. Not much depr at all! For some reason the GT3's seem to hold value much better than any other model.
 
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that doesn't seem like a very big discount to me considering that a lot of new 08's are going out at 20% off MSRP. Maybe you should decide what you're intended use is. Like I said, a lot of people don't consider the GT3 acceptable for everyday use.
 
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I would buy the GT3, but I do like to track my car. You need to decide what you want the car to be used for, that would answer your question.
 
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Mainly street driving, but some track. I don't mind a firm ride though.
 
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The motor and gearbox in the GT3 are amazing, titanium connecting rods, 8400 RPM...
 
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Originally Posted by ucla95
Mainly street driving, but some track. I don't mind a firm ride though.
If you want a grand touring sports car with refined road manners (i.e. easy to drive in traffic), then go with the C2S.

If you want a truly special sports car that was bred for the track (racing), and don't mind that it's a tad rough around the edges for daily use, then the GT3.

I just picked up a GT3RS (see that forum for the 'Homecoming...' link). Driving back-to-back these two really makes me appreciate them both in their own rights. The C2S is so much fun to drive as a DD: easy clutch, smooth shifter, smooth engine, great brakes, back seats, good sound system,etc. The GT3 is a brute in comparison for a DD: stiff clutch and shifter, brakes that make your teeth fall out - watch out for tailgators!, an engine that just wants to run all out, and a sound system that was more of an afterthought...of course, i'm talking as DD here.

On the track, that's a different story that i can't comment yet...

Bottomline: refined = C2S; special & unique = GT3
 
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Mainly street driving, but some track. I don't mind a firm ride though.
I would buy the GT3, it is the only car I see and think I should have bought that instead.
 
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id go GT3, what color is it?
 
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I'd get the GT3, as it'll retain more of it's value over the long run. Maybe I've gotten used to stiff suspensions, but I don't think that the stock GT3 suspension is that stiff, especially with the PASM in OFF.

The reason I say this is because I don't think that you should automatically rule out the GT3 as a daily driver. Also, you have the versatility of taking your car to the track, should the urge arise.

There is also the uniqueness factor of a GT3 coupled with the dry sump GT1 block motor that is all but bulletproof. These factors by themselves would make me want to get the GT3.

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in your case, I'll buy the GT3.

or get a pre-owned 997S with X51 and save more money.
 
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The first 9 posts are all correct imo. Just looked at Edmunds and they have a retail TMV on the 07 GT3 at $77,518, for whatever that's worth. My total drive time in a 04 gt3 was about 18 miles on country roads and it was all perfect, so I really don't know anything about extended comfort or hardships. I do know they impress the hell out of other P car owners (even a few of the TT guys). I've had 3 Porsches, a Corvette, a Viper, and an M3 going back 27 years and my advice to anyone who has not had significant experience in a "high" performance sports car would be to start out with something less than a GT3 or TT; unless you are an old man like me you have plenty of time to 'move up' if you want to.
 

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I haven't seen anyone mention the fact that there is a new GT3 coming this fall that will have a 3.8L engine and some other tweaks that may or may not matter to you.

I expect that will definitely cause the 2007 GT3 to take a bit of a beating. (But might not have any effect at all on the GT3 RS.)

Have you considered a 2007 turbo car? That might be a good compromise as having more power than the 997.2 but more refined than the GT3. Prices there have fallen as well.
 
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Originally Posted by docdan
...Maybe I've gotten used to stiff suspensions, but I don't think that the stock GT3 suspension is that stiff, especially with the PASM in OFF.

The reason I say this is because I don't think that you should automatically rule out the GT3 as a daily driver.

There is also the uniqueness factor of a GT3 coupled with the dry sump GT1 block motor that is all but bulletproof. These factors by themselves would make me want to get the GT3.

Dan
Yeah, the suspension and PASM is what makes me curious about these two vehicles (as a DD). Ironically, I find that the difference between PASM switched ON/OFF is much greater in the C2S than in the GT3. With C2S' switched on, it is quite a stiff, rough ride - feels stiffer than GT3 - even for me! I actually find the GT3 suspension more compliant but planted; and can't tell a difference with the PASM ON or OFF .
 

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