I love my PCCB's and have no regrets about the extra cost to spec them. Amazing brake feel, so solid and easy to modulate. In combination with my forged AMT's, I am saving about 14 lbs per front corner and about 12 lbs per rear corner. Road feel is improved and ride is noticeably improved.

I have never experienced brake noise when hot or cold or ever seen any dusting even after a very spirited drive through mountain roads.

Pretty close to a go-kart feel.

No problem driving in sport mode unless the road surface has chunks missing.

Is the improvement worth the (monumental) cost? Only you can answer that. For me, I could not be happier and would make the same choice again.

 

Why would you spend $8k on brakes that you'll never take advantage of? For brake dust? LOL

The steel brakes are amazing brakes, unless you're on the track all the time and really need the weight savings (which is minimal at best) there's really no reason to get PCCBs???

To each his own, but to spend an extra $8k for yellow calipers and brakes that will never really be utilized vs. the steel brakes is just a dumb move IMO.

If you own $100k+ car, getting it washed should not be a problem. And to replace PCCBs, well that's another expensive ordeal in itself.

 

I think Ric was working on a PCCB delete kit. He started a feeler thread here!

I know he is still working on it, so if you have any questions send me an email or pm.

 

Buying a $100k+ car and worrying about a few thousand dollars (~5% total cost) for an option that has several advantages is more idiotic then I think you have the capacity to fathom.

I am also curious as to what else your fortune telling skills are able to predict, as you seem to be quite certain and confident that I lack the skill necessary to merit these brakes. Perhaps it's more stalking then psychic (psychotic) abilities that causes you dedicate 50% of your posts to me (2/4).

I appreciate the input, but like the Pull-Up commercials used to say "I'm a big boy now."

 

PAG says that PCCBs do not brake any better than the stock steel brakes on the S model. Their advantage is reduced unsprung weight.

As far as cleaning brake dust - invest in P&G Swiffer Duster and use them after every sortie - easy, fast cleaning.

 

I never even thought of doing something like that. Seems like a great idea, thanks. I suppose dust isn't as big an issue on a car occasionally driven as it is on my daily driver, but I guess it's just one of those small things that gets to me.

 

I've read this as well in a few magazines. The only advantage is the weight savings, but if you want to save weight, buy a GT3 - not a 4WD 911...

 

The fact that the GT3 does not come in a PDK excludes that from the possibilities, unless someone is willing to lend me their stick 911 to practice on (any takers?). Why can't someone want to save weight BECAUSE of the AWD?

 

The "feel" of the PCCB's is superior to anything else I ever drove.
As a racer, I would choose PCCB's over anything.
Mr B

 

A low mass chassis is always a good thing. But the mass we are talking about here is unsprung mass - it provides more precise steering and tracking independently of the vehicle's overall mass.

 

How much of a change in unsprung weight is necessary to make a difference? Are we talking 100's of lbs or just 10-20 enough?

 

As a counterpoint, some people, including myself, feel reduction of rotating mass and unsprung weight does offer noticeable improvement in daily driving. The wheel tracks rough road surfaces better and therefore can offer better roadholding in many conditions.

I would argue an excellent case can be made for the day-to-day benefits and improved driving dynamics of losing 24 to 28 lbs per axle, 50 lbs total unsprung weight (wheels/tires/ceramic rotors).

That is a lot. And in this case, it does not come cheap. But it is a perfectly valid and sound goal from an engineering perspective.

 

it really is not a matter of how much is better or makes a noticable difference...it is a matter of less is better as long as you don't take it to a point that affects reliability or strength

 

VSE CHUCK
I AM ON my second setof front ceramic rotors, track a lot...next i am going to switch to steel rotors that will fit our ceramic calipers (Back: 997 GT3 Cup rotors - around $500/pair Front: 996 350mm 02+ GT3 Cup rotors - around $500/pair
) or Demans rotors around 600$/pr...Demans apparently last a lot longer...there are several threads in rennlist on this...so rather than spending so much to switch to brembo, i would just switch to steel rotors to fit the nice yellow calipers...some stick with the rear ceramics and others switch them all to steel.
ceramics are great but too expensive, very fragile, and to allow longer rotor life, you have to change pads at 50%...i am a heavy braker (getting a little easier on the equipment now) , not a scca racer like Mr B but instructor level and been tracking the 997s since it came out end of 2004.had steels on my previous 997s and almost as good as ceramics...about 10 times cheaper.... good luck..

mk

 

mkk62, what car did the PCCB's you have come on?