I still haven't saw any other C2S' with what this car offered. I like you am now intrigued with watching the market. Mostly because I think now that I have a car, I miss the hunt. LOL

It has to be something that is not activated. I tried everything possible. A trip to the dealer is in order. I am sure it will get resolved. Because of my long commutes to work, I wanted to use the chrono and trip tracking to be able to download the info after a week of driving to analyse. I figured since the option is there why not make use of it.

I love the techie stuff. Afterall I have been in the IT field for 15 years. I haven't listened much to the stereo because I am still enjoying the sound of the engine too much. I did make an MP3 CD to make sure it works and it does and the system sounds great for my needs. All genres I like sound great. I will end up doing an Ipod mod though I am sure. I miss my mises.org university downloads and some podcasts.

 

Got quoted 16k off a 125k 09 C4S CAB, not bad but I think in November if they are still around might be better. Might as well buy a TURBO.

 

My thoughts exactly Larry, just as true down here as you're seeing in the US. Porsche Australia still have new 08 build MY09 cars to clear. Hardly surprising given 911 sales are down 55% year on year.

Net effect: cheaper to buy a new MY09 car than a demo of the same age. Dont expect the same deals once the current stock clears, production cut backs bring supply in line with demand, and the economy picks up.

 

Damm, Joe Shark, that's a nice looking car you have! Almost makes me wish I'd gotten black. . .

 

This.

 

Thanks DP. Here's a few bigger pic's for you (or maybe just because I'm an attention hog )

 

I made an offer on the meteor car today and I walked out . I had never dealt with used cars and since my usual new car salespersom is out of town, I walked in as a newbie (in their eyes) . I was driving the M3 .

I explained to them that I have bought multiple cars and know the market . I also explained that I got most people here great deals . The manager asked me why I didn't buy those cars myself . I explained that I had not been in the market for a car until today . (I am planning on allowing my girfried's 20 year old son who working very hard to use my Si -so I am looking for a daily driver replacement and this used 07 lo0ked good) .

The plus -
1) Car had less than 10 K miles
2) It drove beautifully
3) I like meteor
3) It had bose . chrono, power seats .
4) left tailpipe looked clean
5) all 4 tires will be replaced and the car is expected to be certified .

The minus
1) I dislike sport design wheels
2) I dislike P zero tires.
3) car did not have full leather
4) They disclosed a replaced clutch . I drove it and it was fine . I have confidence that service did a great job replacing it . Service is outstanding.

I offered 55K, pending a DME . They were at 61 . I walked . Manager also told me that he did not have to supply DME and I told him that anyone I send him won't even look at the car unless he has it. Pretty simple , really.

I never met these particular guys in used cars. BTW the salesman was a total gentleman and very professional but he is not the one who decides the final price. Acually I do . That's why I walked. I did tell them that if I was going to over pay for a car it might as well be a new car .

The car has to be parked outside . I may just replace the Honda with another Honda as the worry free car . Not just sure yet .

 

In my search that ended a mere 2 weeks ago, I would say the market has firmed. I got a great car, with a complete inspection and really clean DME. An '07, especially as a CPO, is just not around for under 60k. At least in the NE. I had to drive 200 miles to get mine and it was totally worth it. I think it was off the NY metro radar. Checking the dealers, the cars under 60k are all gone. Mostly modestly equipped '06 S's without full equipment priced in the mid to high 50's. Hopefully I'll have pics to post after cleaning her up this weekend!

 

Isn't it incredible how the market changes when the CPO sales numbers are up ? New car sales were low last month but pre owned is thriving . 60K was possible 8 months ago on an 07 .

This actually was a nice car I drove . I didn't like the wheels and tires and would like to see full leather plus I am still not certain about the Honda replacement aspect . I'm not desperate . Plus I have talked with 6speeders who bought 08 cars in the mid 60's (same options , new) .

I don't feel badly about walking awat from a 61K 997S even though it drove nicely but if someone does want it I would understand .

I still feel the car is worth my offer --55K (57K if they placed classic wheels and Ps2's) . I am not budging on my price and am content if I never buy that car.

 

Rye -

I thought a bit more about your post . Maybe if I didn't already have a 997tt , maybe if had planned on sharing the Honda - if this had been my only chance to have a 997S --maybe I would have bought it .

When I consider weighing 6K of over payment compared to the lifetime memory of a Porsche it tilts the perspective. I do understand if someone buys it but it won't be me. Emotional reasoning did not lead to a Porsche purchase in my case.

Perhaps I let my Turbo nest so much in the garage that i miss driving a Porsche daily but want to keep mine with low miles .

I do see that the used cars have climbed a bit . I did say last week that new cars are really the place to shop but I am not buying a new P car .

This thread helped me decide on replacing the Honda with another Honda Si. I had to see that meteor car though . I did consider it.

 

Well, based on this thread:
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-you-know.html

we may be in for some interesting times ahead in terms of pricing. During the free fall of the last 9-12 months on pricing, it was hard to get a handle on what constituted the "right" price. Going forward, we may see the same things but going the other way. It may be tough for buyers in the market now who have seen the great deals that were gotten and trying to replicate them going forward. Patience will continue to be important but at the same time, I think serious buyers need to be ready to move if the right car (with the right PPI, DME, etc. checks out) comes along.

 

Newbie question, whats DME , PPI?
Im looking at a used pp car today.

 

exactly..that's why I though of selling my heavily optioned 05 Carrera C2 which still has 8500 mies and getting a new one with all the deals coming out. My 08 BMW 335 which was an order only in 07 is now widely available along side of new M3's and so are new 997 C2S and TT. The dealers will "adjust" their future inventories especially Champion which is in Chapter 11. Now may be the time !!

 

PPI = Pre Purchase Inspection

DME = Computer Engine Scan to determine if there have ever been any engine over rev's.

DME is normally part of a PPI. An absolute must when looking at buying a used car (as well as a paint inspection to determine if the car has ever had any bodywork done). Should run about $200 - $300 at a Porsche dealer's service department.

 

Joe --you bought used at the best time . You might even be able to profit if you sold your car if what I saw in used cars is an indicator of today . But we have seen the market go up and down .

The better deals today are in new cars or a used Turbo . The used C2S once plentiful and priced reasonable has faced a momenatry price up tick .