As title explains, shifting into 1st and 2nd is notchy while cold w/ OEM short shifter. Sometimes when the car is slowly moving, it's even impossible to get it into 1st unless forced in. Once the car warms up, it's a lot easier to shift. Is this normal?

2006 997 C4S, never tracked, never abused.

This isn't normal is it?

EDIT: I already did a search, didn't find anything too helpful so sorry in adv. if I searched for the wrong term.

 

I have the same car and exactly the same problem. Don't know why, but I put it into 2nd to sync the gears and then its easier (at times) to put into 1st until warmed up.

 

one other thing - its not the short shifter, I have the same issue with the normal shifter too.

 

It is quite normal, even with the stock shifter and not necessarily specific to the OEM Short shifter. IIRC, there were discussions about this before, (do a search) and the consensus is that it's a common occurence on the Porsche.

 

Ah thanks. I was super worried that the synchros (or whatever's in there) were going bad.

Also, I tried a search, didn't find anything too helpful except a couple of threads where some people were in the same boat and some said they didn't have a problem, etc. Posts were pretty old too, but I just wanted to make sure. Thanks and sorry

 

Normal... pretty sure this is makes a bakers dozen threads on this subject

 

double clutch and it goes right in. no problem.

 

yep - have the same issue on B&M SS

 

Uhhh, has anyone ever asked Porsche why they haven't fixed the problem???

Seems like a company who can produce a PDK should be able to fix something like this...

 

It's not really a design flaw, this is not uncommon in many manual cars, at least in the german ones I've had (save for a transverse VW with a cable shifter, which feels like rubber anyways). But the B5 S4 Audi (w/ and w/o short shifter), the B5 A4. The E46 M3 was pretty easy, not to bad. The E36 M3 was butter, as was the Miata and FD3S Mazda.

Anyways, second EJ-997, double clutch and it slides in every time. More so a better fix then going for 2nd or 3rd before 1st.

 

A short shifter decreases the leverage available to move the cable and gears. Everything being equal, obviously a short shifter will require more effort to move the gears. Cold gear lube attributes to this difficulty, but the shifts should smooth out once warm. There should be no notching effect once warmed and you shoud be able to shift from 2nd to 1st at any speed below 30 mph quite easily.

 

The manual on my BMW 328i was much smoother than what I experienced with either my 996 or 997. And people have noted how smooth the Honda S2K shifter is too. Guess I'm wondering why can't P-cars be the same without requiring their drivers to resort to double clutching...

 

It doesn't require double clutching. If it does, there is a malfunction. It should be as smooth as butter. Get it fixed.

 

If you check the Tequipment books, they have this little statement:

"Note: Gearshift action may be slightly restricted when vehicle is started from the cold."

So ya......it's kinda normal.

 

Is there a service department fix for this or is it just part of the 911 mystique?