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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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If I recall correctly you wrote someone where your budget is moving up and up.

Why not get a nice 05/06 C2 or C2S as a first porsche. If you live in NYC you will get 90% of the driving pleasure of a 08 or 09 at about 40% of the cost.
 
Old Aug 29, 2009 | 07:41 PM
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Get the 09 Midnight Blue S.

That is a nice deal on a $100,000 car and you will have all the new technology and better resale in the future.
 
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Thanks guys great advice and I am glad the dealers are closed on Sunday so I can clear my head.
 
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So it was a long day and in the end I have no car.

The 08 CS (Macadamia Brown) I offered 72k with CPO. They called back after offering 75k\CPO and asked me to come in again to talk but they are a 40min drive and I assume "come in" means they can't do 72k and I could not make it there before they closed.

I then went to another P dealer that is 10miles away and looked at an 09 Midnight Blue S same options as the 08 I was looking at but with a $99735 window sticker. Dealer offered it for $82,000 BUT without the 1.9 APR. He said dealers cannot do both 18-20% off + the APR.

While mac brown is my first choice and mid blue is my 2nd, I like the 09 a lot and the extra $$ may be worth it. Not sure. I have not ruled either out
Hands down the 09 . You never get something for nothing and that 1.9 percent is offered on that 08 because it is NOT the 09 .

It's true that a dealership can't offer both the low finance and highpercent discount but whatever you lose on the finance would already be lost if you bought the 08 .

I can't see the brown 08 Vs the midnight 09. I just can't . That brown car sat on the lot for over a year and the people who passed it by saying "no thanks" pose that same obstacle when someday you go to sell it . It may be yoir first choice in color but is it worth that much? There isn't any car color that I could love enough to risk a resale nighmare and macadamia is about as close as it can get .

I am pounding the pavement on that midnight car .
 
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Larry, why can't the dealership give the discount and the 1.9%?
 
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The dealer gets 10K from PCNA on a cash sale for a 09 C2 (S) or they can give 1.9% and no 10K incentive.
 
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The dealer gets 10K from PCNA on a cash sale for a 09 C2 (S) or they can give 1.9% and no 10K incentive.
Bingo .
 
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Get the '09!!
 
Old Aug 30, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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Guys thanks. I found out that trading in a macadamia car was an automatic 4-5k penalty in trade in value. Not that I am looking to trade in anytime soon but it helps to factor that number into the depreciation.

The midnight blue is growing on me.
 
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Forget about depreciation based on that color. I personally like it. I also liked Phoenix Yellow on my BMW M Coupe. They made very few cars in that color and the market was commanding 10K premiums for it by the time I had to sell it. Just get what you want and stop trying to predict future resale values. You will lose.
 
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Incentive

So, the $10,000 is simply dealer holdback? They could sell me a unit at invoice, and the factory would give them the holdback? I bought 3 BMW's from the same family of dealerships here in Baton Rouge last year, and I'm looking for them to give me an insane deal! I may not buy unless they give me 20% off MSRP!?
 
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It's in addition to the normal hold back and only for a cash sale, as I understand it.
 
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Hodback

What's the normal holdback on these units now?
 
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I don't know what the holdback is. One sales manager did tell me the holdback on the Turbo was “about $2000” so I'd guess a bit less on a less expensive model.

That's all I have to go on.
 
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I'm not an expert on these things (really), but better resale? Yes, it will sell at a higher price, but the OP will take a bigger loss than an earlier/pre-owned car. No?


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Get the 09 Midnight Blue S.

That is a nice deal on a $100,000 car and you will have all the new technology and better resale in the future.
 


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