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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 12:10 AM
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That looks very cool Larry.

Great photos BTW
 
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 06:11 AM
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A meaningful upgrade. I'm glad someone is offering this aftermarket solution to Porsche's mediocre design. I know I would have enjoyed my, briefly owned, PDK equipped car much more if it had had this option. If my original '09 C2 PDK car had been an "S" *and* had these paddles I may still own it!

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Awesome. Who did the install? Dealer?
 
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I have decided there was a good bit of wisdom in Porsche's original design. Incredibly convenient and unobtrusive. I like being able to shift up or down with either hand and being able to just "twist" my grip slightly for an upshift is really cool.

These paddles may suit track guys who are used to and prefer that style of one for up and one for down, but I'm not planning to track my car at all and cannot see any advantage. Not as elegant as the original and maybe not as elegant as what is coming in '10 from Porsche as an option.
 
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 10:36 AM
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I have decided there was a good bit of wisdom in Porsche's original design. Incredibly convenient and unobtrusive. I like being able to shift up or down with either hand and being able to just "twist" my grip slightly for an upshift is really cool.

These paddles may suit track guys who are used to and prefer that style of one for up and one for down, but I'm not planning to track my car at all and cannot see any advantage. Not as elegant as the original and maybe not as elegant as what is coming in '10 from Porsche as an option.
What's coming in '10 as an option from PAG is for appeasement of a loud crowd who does not know better. I challenge anyone with L/R paddles to drive fast on a very twisty road and not get all tangled up. I do not expect any takers as these people mostly drive flat straight freeways, where paddle location does not matter.

You are absolutely right - there's a lot of wisdom from PAG's PDK buttons. It just works.
 
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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I looked again at the '10 Porsche version, and while there maybe a wait-list for those new wheels, I think it is one of those "worth the wait" situations. PAGs looks nicer and it will be "original" and likely cleaner as it is not a retrofit but a redesigned wheel. Proximity to turn and wiper stalks will probably not be an issue - certainly never crossed my mind on my BMW and if BMW can do it right, surely PAG can.

However, I still wouldn't upgrade. I prefer it as is. May not look as "racer", but it is refined and works quite well.
 

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I looked again at the '10 Porsche version, and while there maybe a wait-list for those new wheels...
Only if you want a steering wheel that looks straight from the Mustang parts bin.
 
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Originally Posted by stevepow
I have decided there was a good bit of wisdom in Porsche's original design. Incredibly convenient and unobtrusive. I like being able to shift up or down with either hand and being able to just "twist" my grip slightly for an upshift is really cool.

These paddles may suit track guys who are used to and prefer that style of one for up and one for down, but I'm not planning to track my car at all and cannot see any advantage. Not as elegant as the original and maybe not as elegant as what is coming in '10 from Porsche as an option.
After reading much about both sides of this discussion and this post in particular I would say that, based on my experience as a brief PDK equipped car owner, it wasn't the lack of paddles that bothered me and, in fact, I agree with the post above about being able to merely twist your grip on the steering wheel to effect a shift.

What turned me off to the design was simply the flawed direction in which the buttons worked which is counterintuitive to what your body and brain are telling you based on accelerative and braking g-forces during aggressive driving.

A better solution, in my mind, to paddles would be a seemingly, simple software upgrade that reverses the direction in which the buttons work.
 
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What turned me off to the design was simply the flawed direction in which the buttons worked which is counterintuitive to what your body and brain are telling you based on accelerative and braking g-forces during aggressive driving.
Ah, I see you cannot be a manual tranny driver either... as the 6-speed H-pattern will confuse your accelerative and braking g-forces to death.
 
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by B R A N D X®
What turned me off to the design was simply the flawed direction in which the buttons worked which is counterintuitive to what your body and brain are telling you based on accelerative and braking g-forces during aggressive driving.

A better solution, in my mind, to paddles would be a seemingly, simple software upgrade that reverses the direction in which the buttons work.

That may have been handy - user configurable - it was a hard habit to break, and still I have relapses, from my BMW 550i SMG which was opposite. Although intuitively, I think Porsche makes more sense - the 550i confounded me when I first got it and that took a while to get used to. And there is no universal implementation - my mom's new car with paddles is push up/pull down too.

I am enjoying this car though - fun to go out and just practice: push - up, pull - down, over and over and over - gotta hit the Blueridge Parkway soon while the weather is so awesome.
 
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by adias
Only if you want a steering wheel that looks straight from the Mustang parts bin.

I do, though - like a Shelby Porsche or something - how cool is that.
 
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They appear close but are not in the way . Several people drove the car and all agreed that this is the way it should have come from Porsche.
I would have to agree with Larry. The paddle position is perfect and really should've come like this Porsche. Even for you guys with larger hands, there is still plenty of room. Most tend to shift with the upper portion of the paddles when driving / tracking anyway. Once again hats off to the crew @ Champion Motorsport for developing this amazing product for all PDK cars.
 
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Originally Posted by stevepow
I have decided there was a good bit of wisdom in Porsche's original design. Incredibly convenient and unobtrusive. I like being able to shift up or down with either hand and being able to just "twist" my grip slightly for an upshift is really cool.

These paddles may suit track guys who are used to and prefer that style of one for up and one for down, but I'm not planning to track my car at all and cannot see any advantage. Not as elegant as the original and maybe not as elegant as what is coming in '10 from Porsche as an option.
Well said !
 
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Originally Posted by yrralis1
What a huge improvement !!!!! These things are great . I drove my car for the first time in awhile this evening . The paddles do wipe out any confusion , are large enough to find easilty and are very efficient. One person who test drive my car felt that it was close to the directional but I don't see that as an issue .
The exhaust sounded great. The paddles were awesome.
After all this Gt3 hoopla .. I'm keeping this car for awhile.
I doubt that the magnitude of this improvement satiates the need you have dictated by compulsive car obsession. How do I know? I suffer from the same malady.
 
Old Oct 3, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by stevepow
I have decided there was a good bit of wisdom in Porsche's original design. Incredibly convenient and unobtrusive. I like being able to shift up or down with either hand and being able to just "twist" my grip slightly for an upshift is really cool.

These paddles may suit track guys who are used to and prefer that style of one for up and one for down, but I'm not planning to track my car at all and cannot see any advantage. Not as elegant as the original and maybe not as elegant as what is coming in '10 from Porsche as an option.

The Turbo is getting the paddles . In my opinion Porsche is admitting its flaw implementing the change in their flagship car.

Even worse --wait till the next PDK evolution step places this one as dated technology .. just as those buttons . I am noticing things with time which I like and some which I think have a lot of room for improvement. The paddles are just a small spec . At least it can be corrected easily . The bigger snags (like normal auto and the agressive sport auto downshift) have got to be smoothed out . I think it will come in time.
 


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