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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 07:24 AM
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About legality of Blinder Extreme M25 laser jammer.

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As winter comes and there is some boredom to fight I was thinking to put this or similar system on my car, but just wonder - is there here anybody who actually was stopped by police after they tried to laser you and got no reading?

I think it should look pretty annoying to a cop who used his laser million times to see no reading response after he shoots your car - he would probably figure out that car has jammer on it as he sees with his own eyes how fast you go, so, what happens next after they get you stopped anyway?

Jammers are pretty much illegal in all states I guess, so, isn`t it an invitation to a bigger problems if they will actually find that jammer on your car?

Any opinions on this subject?
 
Old Oct 23, 2009 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by utkinpol
Jammers are pretty much illegal in all states I guess,
That is incorrect. Lidar jammers are legal in a lot of states but they can try to nail you under other laws.
 
Old Oct 23, 2009 | 07:55 AM
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Federal law allows anyone to monitor radio waves, including radar. That has not prevented a few states from having laws that ban the use of radar detectors which monitor radio waves. I guess you can fight it successfully if you are willing to spend $$$$ on lawyers.... generally not worth it.

But radar jammers? Now you are talking about transmitting radar signals. My guess is that this would be clearly illegal.
 
Old Oct 23, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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But radar jammers? Now you are talking about transmitting radar signals. My guess is that this would be clearly illegal.
exactly so, that is why I am curious if anybody has, to say, first hand experience after being stopped for that.
 
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Radar jammers--clearly illegal; an FCC license issue as well as application issue.

Lasers are under the jurisdiction of Food and Drug Admin. Technically, lasers are legal. Some states have laws against interfering with any attempt of law enforcement to measure your speed. So, their use to jam police laser is illegal in some states. However, note that police lasers just don't work sometimes. So an error or lack of reading is not common, but not unusual. Getting that does not automatically send cops after you.

Note that the laser jammers only work at longer distances. By the time you get within 400' or so, the police unit will overpower the jammer and they'll get their reading.

Best use is as soon as you get a warning from the system, slow down and immediately press your "disable" button to let the office get a reading asap.
 
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Pulled over by Mr Police officer

I was pulled over going 56 on a 55mph zone. The officer politely asked me to get out of the car and asked what kind of "device" I had in the car. I just played stupid and asked why. He stated he could not get a read on my car. Luckily I installed the rear shifter up front and did not have it in the back license plate. He stated he could not get for speeding but was going to give me a ticket for "improper display" of the license plate. The county sticker was obscured partially. Luckily I talked my way out of it. Be carefull. The advise is to slow down quickly and turn off the shifters so when he re-triggers he will not get suspecious.
 
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Originally Posted by RF5BPilot
Best use is as soon as you get a warning from the system, slow down and immediately press your "disable" button to let the office get a reading asap.
I am looking at all pro and contras of this idea right now, it just feels to me like possible complications if they WILL find that jammer under your bumper may overpower any possible savings over numerous speeding tickets expenses...

Plus in last 10 years I had 2 speeding tickets total as I rely on my eyes as on best radar detector possible. Just was thinking to add another crafty gizmo to my car.
 
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He stated he could not get for speeding but was going to give me a ticket for "improper display" of the license plate. The county sticker was obscured partially. Luckily I talked my way out of it. Be carefull. The advise is to slow down quickly and turn off the shifters so when he re-triggers he will not get suspicious.
It is exactly my concern - I may have radio volume high or simply miss that chime from laser jammer and then what? I wonder - is there any laser jammer system that could be programmed to automatically suppress jamming after, say, 2 consequent laser hits? That would be probably more reliable than me pressing that button.

Valentin 1 on other side works quite well sensing laser beams when they shoot at all cars consequently.
 
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I agree that one should avoid Mr Policeman pulling you over at any cost. I would rather have him give me a ticket for any other reason than for speeding. Usually that would mean a nonmoving violation and would not affect my insurance rate.
 
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Originally Posted by utkinpol
I am looking at all pro and contras of this idea right now, it just feels to me like possible complications if they WILL find that jammer under your bumper may overpower any possible savings over numerous speeding tickets expenses...

Plus in last 10 years I had 2 speeding tickets total as I rely on my eyes as on best radar detector possible. Just was thinking to add another crafty gizmo to my car.
Two speeding tickets in10 years? That doesn't even raise your insurance in NJ......unless it's 100 mph in a 55mph zone.....then you have bigger problems.....
 
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"There are no federal laws restricting the use of laser jammers. However, some states may regulate their use. The use of laser jammers is prohibited and/or restricted in California, Minnesota, Oklahoma and Utah. Check your local laws before using the laser "shifting" feature of the ZR3. "

I have a shifter and have never been stopped. For me it's a combination of being a smart driver and only using my radar/shifter as a 'heads up'. After all, regardless of what I have for devices, legal or illegal, speeding is illegal. If I get busted, I am willing to pay the consequence.
 
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Originally Posted by Fahrer
Two speeding tickets in10 years? That doesn't even raise your insurance in NJ......unless it's 100 mph in a 55mph zone.....then you have bigger problems.....
yep, one of them I got in St Louis MO going about 125mph in 3am - but got down to 70mph and cop gave me just 85mph ticket, so, it was big break for me... Down there they can convert any speeding ticket into parking violation one, so it costed me just about $200 or so. Other one was on IL/IN border - they prey on all out of state cars down there. And I had none yet in MA, NJ, NY, hopefully it will not change any time soon.
 
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I got 1 ticket doing 86 in a 75. My wife asked me if I was upset....I said not considering I was going 110 on the on-ramp earlier
 
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Laser Interceptor

I use the Laser Interceptor and it save me last week in Georgia from a trip from Florida to Virginia.
 
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I was also concerned about being pulled over because the police officer was getting an error code from your car. I mentioned this to Cliff at Laser Interceptor. He stated that they have several laser guns to test their devices and that error codes with laser guns are fairly common. Use the laser "jammer" and when it goes off, get your cars slowed and then turn it off. If I am using a jammer in a state where it is legal, then I would prefer to get pulled over and questioned than ticketed for speeding.
Here is what an attorney buddy of mine says about laser jammers and their legality. He stated that while it is legal to carry a screw driver, as soon as you put it into a door lock and break in, it becomes a criminal tool. Interesting take on it.

I get lasered so often that I have lost count. I have had one jammer or another for over 5 years.
Good luck and drive safe.
 


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