Nailed by a cop on foot.
#16
08-09-2010, 08:58 AM
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i guess in CA one cannot convert speeding into parking violation like on mid-west? MA does not have that, so i just run slow here and rely on my V1.
#17
08-09-2010, 09:05 AM
Sorry to hear about your ticket. I used to commute to Baltimore and they have a mobile speed camera in a minivan set up near construction sites 24/7 regardless if the construction crew is out or not. Money seems to be the motivation rather than safety.
#18
08-09-2010, 09:40 AM
If you get really serious about laser, and in my part of the world it is used 2 to 1 over radar, you will get a jammer.
The Laser Interceptor is the best jammer with the Blinder a solid #2.
#22
08-09-2010, 11:05 AM
You are correct on the first part, but shifters like the one that comes w/ the escort are not very good.
If you get really serious about laser, and in my part of the world it is used 2 to 1 over radar, you will get a jammer.
The Laser Interceptor is the best jammer with the Blinder a solid #2.
If you get really serious about laser, and in my part of the world it is used 2 to 1 over radar, you will get a jammer.
The Laser Interceptor is the best jammer with the Blinder a solid #2.
#23
08-09-2010, 11:15 AM
Okay, I'll be the spoiler here. I am truly sorry that you will have to spend your hard-earned money on the ticket. But let's look at the facts. You're driving in a "downtown" area, which usually means pedestrians are present. While "accelerating" from a stop sign, you get caught going nearly twice the speed limit. I'm pretty sure the 25 mph speed limit has nothing to do with generating revenue. Finally, you don't deny that you were going that fast.
Like everyone else, one of the reasons I bought my car was for the performance. When I want to push my car past legal limits, I can always take it to the track, or at least find a large parking lot or open stretch of rural highway. If you were complaining about going with the flow of traffic on the interstate and getting a ticket for 5 mph over, I'd be alot more sympathetic. No offense intended, but I think you should man up and just admit that you got caught not being too smart.
Like everyone else, one of the reasons I bought my car was for the performance. When I want to push my car past legal limits, I can always take it to the track, or at least find a large parking lot or open stretch of rural highway. If you were complaining about going with the flow of traffic on the interstate and getting a ticket for 5 mph over, I'd be alot more sympathetic. No offense intended, but I think you should man up and just admit that you got caught not being too smart.
#24
08-09-2010, 12:22 PM
Cops everywhere these days. I just saw a CHP in plain view on 101 by SFO holding a radar gun. What a fool. He was spotted over a mile away. I doubt he'll catch any fish for a while.
#25
08-09-2010, 12:26 PM
Concur. Forthrightly admitting I was wrong saved me from getting a ticket when I was going too fast 35/25 in an area near pedestrians. I simply told the police officer that I was sorry, had no excuse and it wouldn't happen again. He let me go.
It hasn't happened again.
On the other hand, try and go less than 80 on the NJ Turnpike. You'll be run over from behind. So far, the Troopers aren't bothering people for less than 80. Over 80 and you'll eventually get pulled over.
It hasn't happened again.
On the other hand, try and go less than 80 on the NJ Turnpike. You'll be run over from behind. So far, the Troopers aren't bothering people for less than 80. Over 80 and you'll eventually get pulled over.
#26
08-09-2010, 02:13 PM
Okay, I'll be the spoiler here. I am truly sorry that you will have to spend your hard-earned money on the ticket. But let's look at the facts. You're driving in a "downtown" area, which usually means pedestrians are present. While "accelerating" from a stop sign, you get caught going nearly twice the speed limit. I'm pretty sure the 25 mph speed limit has nothing to do with generating revenue. Finally, you don't deny that you were going that fast.
Like everyone else, one of the reasons I bought my car was for the performance. When I want to push my car past legal limits, I can always take it to the track, or at least find a large parking lot or open stretch of rural highway. If you were complaining about going with the flow of traffic on the interstate and getting a ticket for 5 mph over, I'd be alot more sympathetic. No offense intended, but I think you should man up and just admit that you got caught not being too smart.
Like everyone else, one of the reasons I bought my car was for the performance. When I want to push my car past legal limits, I can always take it to the track, or at least find a large parking lot or open stretch of rural highway. If you were complaining about going with the flow of traffic on the interstate and getting a ticket for 5 mph over, I'd be alot more sympathetic. No offense intended, but I think you should man up and just admit that you got caught not being too smart.
No offense intended. Just a bad judgement call.
#27
08-09-2010, 02:25 PM
There is also a law that says dont drive friggen 44mph in a 25mph zone. How about we just get close to 25mph.. then the other issue goes away. I doubt she would have pulled you over for doing 29.
#28
08-09-2010, 03:08 PM
Today's LE have become a BUSINESS, thanks to City Hall and your friendly state Govt. It costs mucho $$ to arrest somebody, to bag criminals. Back in 1998, it cost the avg CA metro city, from the arrest to fingerprinting and a holding cell; $5000-$6000 per arrest... just to the point of processing them and putting them in a cell. This does not include prosecution, incarceration and clerical costs during the trial phase; not to mention what it costs for after-sentencing things like jail, probation, etc...
Therefore, the focus is on writing tickets, plain and simple. This is all motorcycle cops are hired for. Period.
For the most part, today's LE has been reduced to primarily a massive revenue-generation device, and a mop-up crew after the crime has been committed.
City Hall's #1 objective for officers is to WRITE TICKETS, period; ESPECIALLY MOTORCYCLE POLICE. City Hall isn't stupid, and they have leveraged a most precious resource (their LE personnel) not to reduce crime by being proactive, but to fill their coffers with $$ from writing tickets. This is a fact. I don't and won't argue about this, as I have seen on the inside as well. Allow me to illustrate this.
Let's do a nice little math exercise, shall we?
Say 'City X' hires 30 new officers to build their motorcycle contingent.
Now let's say that during a monthly cycle of assignments, just 20 of these are on the beat, 7 days a week.
Let's say each motorcycle cop writes 10 tickets a day. (not too difficult seeing that is what they are there for)
Now for simplicity's sake, let's just avg down the value of each ticket to a paltry $150.00- we know this could be all over the map; but stopsign/redlight violatons escalate fees more, not to mention DUI, etc... (in which the Cycle cop calls backup to haul off the perp)
Again, this projection would be for a 30-day month.
Ok so here's the equation for this scenario: 10 x $150 x 20 x 30 = ????
Each individual officer nets City Hall or the State (on avg)
$1,500 A DAY
$10,500 a WEEK
$45,000 a MONTH...
collectively, our 20 men and women in blue in this exercise are doing for City Hall/the State (and this is conservative, mind you):
$30,000 a DAY
$210,000 a WEEK
$900,000.00 a MONTH!!
now get this... that works out to:
$10,800,000.00 a YEAR.
That is TEN MILLION, EIGHT-HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR.
Now I have only used 20 of the 30 hired as an example in this equation.
Nice little operation the state and city hall have going on, don't you think? Of course, part of this pays for bikes; wages/bennies, uniforms, etc.... but I hope you get the picture.
#30
08-11-2010, 03:49 PM
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Rep Power: 19 I would agree with that. However, I still stand by what I said about "it's all about revenue generation, folks" because THAT'S what it is all about today.
Today's LE have become a BUSINESS, thanks to City Hall and your friendly state Govt. It costs mucho $$ to arrest somebody, to bag criminals. Back in 1998, it cost the avg CA metro city, from the arrest to fingerprinting and a holding cell; $5000-$6000 per arrest... just to the point of processing them and putting them in a cell. This does not include prosecution, incarceration and clerical costs during the trial phase; not to mention what it costs for after-sentencing things like jail, probation, etc...
Therefore, the focus is on writing tickets, plain and simple. This is all motorcycle cops are hired for. Period.
For the most part, today's LE has been reduced to primarily a massive revenue-generation device, and a mop-up crew after the crime has been committed.
City Hall's #1 objective for officers is to WRITE TICKETS, period; ESPECIALLY MOTORCYCLE POLICE. City Hall isn't stupid, and they have leveraged a most precious resource (their LE personnel) not to reduce crime by being proactive, but to fill their coffers with $$ from writing tickets. This is a fact. I don't and won't argue about this, as I have seen on the inside as well. Allow me to illustrate this.
Let's do a nice little math exercise, shall we?
Say 'City X' hires 30 new officers to build their motorcycle contingent.
Now let's say that during a monthly cycle of assignments, just 20 of these are on the beat, 7 days a week.
Let's say each motorcycle cop writes 10 tickets a day. (not too difficult seeing that is what they are there for)
Now for simplicity's sake, let's just avg down the value of each ticket to a paltry $150.00- we know this could be all over the map; but stopsign/redlight violatons escalate fees more, not to mention DUI, etc... (in which the Cycle cop calls backup to haul off the perp)
Again, this projection would be for a 30-day month.
Ok so here's the equation for this scenario: 10 x $150 x 20 x 30 = ????
Each individual officer nets City Hall or the State (on avg)
$1,500 A DAY
$10,500 a WEEK
$45,000 a MONTH...
collectively, our 20 men and women in blue in this exercise are doing for City Hall/the State (and this is conservative, mind you):
$30,000 a DAY
$210,000 a WEEK
$900,000.00 a MONTH!!
now get this... that works out to:
$10,800,000.00 a YEAR.
That is TEN MILLION, EIGHT-HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR.
Now I have only used 20 of the 30 hired as an example in this equation.
Nice little operation the state and city hall have going on, don't you think? Of course, part of this pays for bikes; wages/bennies, uniforms, etc.... but I hope you get the picture.
Today's LE have become a BUSINESS, thanks to City Hall and your friendly state Govt. It costs mucho $$ to arrest somebody, to bag criminals. Back in 1998, it cost the avg CA metro city, from the arrest to fingerprinting and a holding cell; $5000-$6000 per arrest... just to the point of processing them and putting them in a cell. This does not include prosecution, incarceration and clerical costs during the trial phase; not to mention what it costs for after-sentencing things like jail, probation, etc...
Therefore, the focus is on writing tickets, plain and simple. This is all motorcycle cops are hired for. Period.
For the most part, today's LE has been reduced to primarily a massive revenue-generation device, and a mop-up crew after the crime has been committed.
City Hall's #1 objective for officers is to WRITE TICKETS, period; ESPECIALLY MOTORCYCLE POLICE. City Hall isn't stupid, and they have leveraged a most precious resource (their LE personnel) not to reduce crime by being proactive, but to fill their coffers with $$ from writing tickets. This is a fact. I don't and won't argue about this, as I have seen on the inside as well. Allow me to illustrate this.
Let's do a nice little math exercise, shall we?
Say 'City X' hires 30 new officers to build their motorcycle contingent.
Now let's say that during a monthly cycle of assignments, just 20 of these are on the beat, 7 days a week.
Let's say each motorcycle cop writes 10 tickets a day. (not too difficult seeing that is what they are there for)
Now for simplicity's sake, let's just avg down the value of each ticket to a paltry $150.00- we know this could be all over the map; but stopsign/redlight violatons escalate fees more, not to mention DUI, etc... (in which the Cycle cop calls backup to haul off the perp)
Again, this projection would be for a 30-day month.
Ok so here's the equation for this scenario: 10 x $150 x 20 x 30 = ????
Each individual officer nets City Hall or the State (on avg)
$1,500 A DAY
$10,500 a WEEK
$45,000 a MONTH...
collectively, our 20 men and women in blue in this exercise are doing for City Hall/the State (and this is conservative, mind you):
$30,000 a DAY
$210,000 a WEEK
$900,000.00 a MONTH!!
now get this... that works out to:
$10,800,000.00 a YEAR.
That is TEN MILLION, EIGHT-HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR.
Now I have only used 20 of the 30 hired as an example in this equation.
Nice little operation the state and city hall have going on, don't you think? Of course, part of this pays for bikes; wages/bennies, uniforms, etc.... but I hope you get the picture.
This is a nice equation BUT....city Police Dept's DO NOT GET A FULL PORTION of the citations they issue. It is maybe more like .25%, .50% or 1% and maybe 2% (for the more higher class cities) of the actual fine amount.
This all depends on how the city council negotiated that contract or budget detail with the state and PD.
Check with your city hall & inquire how much your local Police generate for the city.....but it is not the large amount you believe it is.
Believe it or not....PARKING CITATIONS...generate a higher porion/percentage for the city and the PD.