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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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Question PCCB Vs. "porsche reds"

I was looking into a carrera s ,and i was wondering if the ceramics are worth it.I know about all the hype about less weight and better stopping distance .I really dont mind paying an extra eight thousand or what it is if i can get some feedback from owners with this option on there vehicule.(i was looking for how they feel,do they squeek,fade) thanks and by the way I am new to this site ,great site luv it
 
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yes u can feel the big difference even when not under braking. worth the money or not that's personal preference. another hype for the ceramics on the side is it's almost dust free.
 
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negatives- big $ and they dont stop the car any faster

positives- they look better, fade less, AND#1 they make the car handle slightly better as they reduce a tremendous amount of unsprung weight...probably close to 40lbs...if you do them dont defeate the purpose and then load the car up with tons of heavy **** like power seats etc etc i would even go as far as sunroof delete

any car you build that is a sports car you want to be as light as possible...the M3 I just ordered has no power seats and no sunroof you want that **** buy A LEXUS imho..!
 

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I love the ceramics on my turboS. Great stopping power, and NO dust!!
 
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I heard that the PCCB's glow at night (from the heat), but I haven't been able to see for myself.
 
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I just read the Feb issue of "GT Purely Porsche" and the 2005 Turbo S was put to the test. With regards to the brakes this is what they said: "The standard PCCB setup is absolutely fantastic for track use. While outright stopping performance is little better than the standard steel items. PCCB is utterly tireless. Whereas the Carrera S we had tested earlier this week was pouring smoke after half a dozen laps, with the pedal starting to soften, the Turbo felt like it could carry on all day. No smoke, no fade, just fantastically consistent feel. This is due to bigger disks, bigger calipers, and the ceramic composites' ability to take higher temperatures. It takes just two seconds to halt from 30mph and even more impressive, just 4.6 sec to stop from 100mph. The deceleration leaves you gasping, literally hanging against the seatbelt."
 
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wow! dustless! thats awesome!
 
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wow! dustless! thats awesome!
300 miles without washing the car dry or rain wheels still look new & clean... i mean the inside as well.
 
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300 miles without washing the car dry or rain wheels still look new & clean... i mean the inside as well.
omg! Besides all the other positives they have that is by far one of the best! Hmmm, just for that i am going to consider it if i decide to order a 997S.


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omg! Besides all the other positives they have that is by far one of the best! Hmmm, just for that i am going to consider it if i decide to order a 997S.


btw, i think i spoke to you today, well not really like a convo, i call there often to speak to simon and he is usually not in. I never knew you were arling.
can u think a white car with white wheel & white caliper... 8k who cares as long as they don't crack!
 
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Originally posted by 20C4S
can u think a white car with white wheel & white caliper... 8k who cares as long as they don't crack!

lol, yes, with all that white the 8k is a no brainer!


btw, any pics of white calipers? thats gotta be pretty rare.
 
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Originally posted by TestnDoc
I love the ceramics on my turboS. Great stopping power, and NO dust!!
i get lots of dust from my cgt's ceramics, but considerably less than i have from other pcars without them. i get zero dust from my stradale ceramics though - zero.
 
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I have ceramics on my GT3 and they were quiet at first but after a few mild track sessions, they started to squeal like crazy. The factory of course would not warranty the replacement but the dealer did offer to swap the hard ceramic pads out for softer ceramic pads. Car is quiet now but I have not had any track time since the softer pads. But if you don't intend to race the car a lot, see if you can get the softer pad. I was told the softer pad is an option now but didn't confirm it in person.
 
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The softer pad is a "street" only pad. It's never meant to be used on the track.
 


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