If it came down to a court case, you'd be able to get erased text messages back from the phone company - and only an idiot would perjure themselves over something like this. Used car salespeople are hardly the objects of sympathy in any setting, especially in front of a judge who has seen it all. It's repainted, no doubt about it - you didn't do it yourself, it wasn't disclosed in the sale - bottom line, they're the ones guilty of negligence - or perhaps, outright fraud.

I'd get my money back - especially considering they haven't exactly been forthcoming. Hey, if they made an honest mistake - that's fine. But why should YOU eat their mistake?

 

I totally agree, I do honest mistakes, but I did ask prior the purchase and after the purchase a week later I noticed on the rocker the paint, so I ask again via text msg, if the car had damage or why it was re sprayed the response was that it did not have any damage, that some times cars get re painted or some touch up in the port of entrance or something like that, thats when I started looking further and today I took the car to get it checked with the paint meter.. paint was at 9.5 - 10

 

BTW What car did you buy? Did it come with sport/chronos?

I was just thinking that if you didn't have it they could upgrade you.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that upgrade just a ECU flash and a $10 button? Maybe it is more complicated than that.

That would cost them next to nothing but would probably make you happy.

 

LoL.. sport chrono, electric sport seats, bose, I like the options, but I don't think I am going to be that happy ??

now the question is.. what is fair to do ?
just be happy and walk away.
dealer exchange the car for a similar.
get a discount from dealer and how much.

 

Let it go. The car is mechanically fine - prob still under warranty and, objectively speaking, aesthetically and otherwise the car that was represented to you. I had discovered after the fact from my body guy that a panel had been resprayed as he could tell the texture of the orange peel was different. After agonizing over it for a week I decided to let dead dogs lie...that's my opinion anyway - and I'm pretty ****-retentive guy....

 

thanks I've been trying to think like you, what about 2 panels and a door, maybe 3 weeks would help me to put this behind lol, my concern is resale, is it going to be hard to sell it, because of this?I will have to disclose this..

 

+1 -- Post of the day !!!!

 

Ok I read the thread .

I feel that the key to any used car is disclosure . Mutual trust and respect can make or break any car sale.

They sold you a car in good faith that it wasn't damaged . If they didn't know .. then they should give you a full refund and offer to make it right . If they lied .. then you have the choice to either let it slide or consult an attorney. They already have your money , your signature , and their contract .... you have a car (which you have not fully inspected) and are learning things which shake your confidence with an expensive item that is supposed to bring you happiness . Instead you have doubt.
I feel that even if the damage is minor .. you bought the car without that awareness.

One red flag .. raises more red flags . So far it's mechanically working but what if more hasn't been disclosed with that car. Only you can decide the best avenue from here .

Good luck.

 

i would do this - go to good local mechanic, have him to run paint scanner and check if it is indeed an even respray across all panels. tell him to check for signs of any structural damage - essentialy just check if both axles and rest of frame looks intact.

if it is for real just a respray - well, heck with it. if there is plaster there on some panels and signs of a hard hit - it is a different story. decide for yourself. i would worry only if car shows signs of a serious hit that afected whole side. it should be visible, if it was serious.
if somebody simly keyed whole car side and it was respraid - well, it sux but not an ultimate problem, given quality of original 997 paint a properly done re-spray may be even of a better quality paint.

 

I had a ppi done on mine when I bought it. It had been all over painted. It looks great. It got keyed all over about 4 years ago and the original owner kept it another 3 years. As long as it hasn't had panels replaced or been hit, who cares? Work a free oil change or something out of it and continue to enjoy that beauty. Especially if it not going to be a hangar queen. IMHO

 

Thanks, man.

Putting big letters at the beginning of sentences and using those period thingies at the end got tiresome, but I tried.

 

Thanks for all the info, but I don't think im gonna buy the hole thing of just enjoy your car, maybe get a free oil change, I am young but not dumb, I am going to give you an example, if I sell a customer a granite countertop, they go and pick there stone, if I receive the stone with a crack or defect and I don't check and disclose that before installation, I am going to get a call back with a very angry customer, what am I supposed to tell him?? oh im sorry I was not aware because thats how it came from factory and its not my fault plus at the shop we don't check for defects, sorry but you are stuck, enjoy your new kitchen, Of course not, Thats my responsability, thats why I am honest, only when u want a one time customer you act like that, here we are talking about Porsche I probably understand if it was a kia, but still Another story if the sales guy tells you hey i am giving you a good deal because the car has 3 panels resprayed, ok thats another story I can see my options, a year from now if I try to sell the car what should I disclose.. Car is in mint condition no damage/half car painted or just dont say anything? People like me have the right to know, this car is not a cheap car, I looked at a bunch of cars before, couple of them just walked away because they had scratches, if I cant do anything I will keep the car and will try to put this behind but I think its not right

 

'there is no crack' (c) matrix.

you most definitely have several options, so, try your best.

 

This all sounds like a lot of hassle over what's probably a non-issue. The only way to get a perfect car is to buy new. I couldn't afford to so being the perfectionist I am, had to settle for a few imperfections when I bought my used 997S.

What does the CarFax say about any accidents? I would think that will have more impact on resale value than a little overspray under the car. If there are any mechanical issues due to body work, you would probably have noticed them by now...

If it were me, I'd take this as a lesson in getting to know yourself and what will make you more comfortable next time you make a purchase...like the others said, get an independent inspection to see what body work has been done on the car if it helps you sleep at night.

 

Three panels being repainted is a big issue especially as the car was sold as not having any body work or repainting.

It boils down to fraud, the damages are pretty easy to establish. How much is the car worth repainted versus clean. 10% of $64K is low enough to get into special civil court in New Jersey - that's a step above small claims - and usually easy to do yourself. "Nobody would notice" has no relevance. The law doesn't expect Solrac to dip to the same low standard of ethical behavior that the dealer is currently exhibiting. He'll have to disclose the damage to any subsequent buyer or be subject to a lawsuit himself.

I "know myself" and if this happened to me, I'd give the dealer 24 hours to take the car back (it's only been one month) or I'd out the dealer on this website, the other Porsche websites and Yelp. Then I'd sue him.

I've taken a few people to court. It can be expensive, but I enjoy seeing the miscreant's face when they have to explain themselves to a judge. All the bs, smoke, nonsense and bravado gets stripped away and you get right down to the issue at hand.

Fraud.