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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 08:42 AM
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The BMW 335 had a lot of problems with these high pressure fuel pumps....must be the same manufacturer.
 
Old Sep 26, 2011 | 01:40 PM
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Called my dealer today.

They confirmed my 2010 S needs the pump replaced but that they are getting in short supply.

I only have 3,700 miles on the car and have had no problems.

Dealer said they would notify me when the pump is in and schedule an appointment.

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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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Going in to get mine done next week. Just gotta love how I didn't get any notice from PCNA and instead found out about it on 6 speed...!

Thanks for the heads up (heard about it a couple months ago here, procrastinating...)
 
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You don't get a notification because its not a safety issue or guaranteed failure. Just a small percentage of the pumps are failing, so they are proactively replacing pumps on cars they thing might have similar batch installed, as they show up.
 
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You don't get a notification because its not a safety issue or guaranteed failure. Just a small percentage of the pumps are failing, so they are proactively replacing pumps on cars they thing might have similar batch installed, as they show up.
Just as you say, Minok. Got mine done last week. It certainly hadn't failed, but i did have a recurring stall in circumstances I would attribute to a carburetor mis-adjusted in the low rpm range -- if this were 1965. Basically, the engine would just shut down when coasting with the clutch in at parking lot speeds; or it would die leaving a light if I didn't get on the gas firmly as the clutch came out. It hadn't occurred to me to blame the HPFP for those symptoms. They are so much like high-performance cars of ye olden days, that I just cussed, blushed, and restarted the engine. Happened a couple of times a day when we bought the car, but only once a week or so after I got used to it.

My dealer called to tell me of the service bulletin, but no urgency was attached. They just invited me in at my convenience. Suddenly, with the new pump, those stalls are not happening. I don't offer this as a diagnosis of anything, because the improvement might be a side-effect of the recalibration of the engine controller that goes with replacing the pump. But it is nice to manage a slow getaway behind some soccer van without stalling the engine.

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But it is nice to manage a slow getaway behind some soccer van without stalling the engine.

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I'm still struggling with that on occasion, even with the new pump from two months ago.

I noticed in the mornings its a big rough for the first 30 seconds of run time.. if I try to just cruise away out of the garage with light gas, it sputters on occasion... the cold engine just isn't performing well.

And I still have the occasional issue with stalling from a stand still (green light, at guard gate) due to the hard biting clutch and me not giving it enough gas. But that is just an operator problem.
 
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When my dealer informed me of the recall ("campaign" in Porsche terms), he said it was a Bosch pump.
 
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I'm still struggling with that on occasion, even with the new pump from two months ago.

I noticed in the mornings its a big rough for the first 30 seconds of run time.. if I try to just cruise away out of the garage with light gas, it sputters on occasion... the cold engine just isn't performing well.

And I still have the occasional issue with stalling from a stand still (green light, at guard gate) due to the hard biting clutch and me not giving it enough gas. But that is just an operator problem.
Thinking about it, I wouldn't know about the first thirty seconds. I have to start up, back forty yards down the driveway; stop; close the gate I opened before starting the car; and get back in the driver's seat. The whole magillah must take at least 90 seconds and more likely two minutes, so by the time I back into the road and depart, the engine has been running at least two minutes. Three, if I take time to put on sunglasses or something else of the sort.

The other symptoms you describe are the ones that troubled me though. Might be worth a complaint to the dealer. Could be the recalibration takes a little more effort than the mechanic put into it the first time. I haven't read the procedure, so I don't know how involved it is, but it's worth a "polite-but-troubled" callback, don't you think?

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Just dropped my car (2009 C2S) off at the dealer for the new fuel pump. I noticed it didn't want to keep running right after it was started in the morning after the last couple of starts. Today while driving in 6th at ~2800rpm I tried to accelerate and the whole car shuddered and lacked power.

I drove straight to the dealer, they checked their system and said I needed a new pump.
 
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Originally Posted by Minok
I noticed in the mornings its a big rough for the first 30 seconds of run time.. if I try to just cruise away out of the garage with light gas, it sputters on occasion... the cold engine just isn't performing well.
Same with my car, now solved with the new pump.
 
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I had no problem with my 09S, just stopped on the dealer to yack I'd asked about the recall, he checked and said do you want to do it now, I said OK.
All done, no problems before, none now, so far.
 
Old Oct 11, 2011 | 03:49 PM
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The BMW 335 had a lot of problems with these high pressure fuel pumps....must be the same manufacturer.
I had an 09 BMW 535 that had 5 high pressure fuel pumps fail in 18 months. BMWNA bought the car back then sold it as CPO!
 
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I have a 2008 BMW 535. It has, of course, a HPFP and with all of the problems that go with that design. I thought I wanted a 2009 911 with DFI but I will take a few less hp and a few less mpg along with the far fewer problems with my 2008 C2S. yeah, it has an IMS but I think it is a very small chance for a major problem with that year. We just got a new 2012 Mazda 3 for my son. It was just in time as they will soon convert to DFI with HPFPs. Nice to have a few more mpgs but not so nice to spend a lot of time at the dealer.
 
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So there are many cars now with HPFP's and I haven't heard of any problems. How about Cadillac?? I haven't heard these pumps failing. BMW has had this problems for last 4-5 years and it sounds like the same manufacture for Porsche. It is shocking that this manufacturer is still making pumps that fail.

Not a safety issue...you better have a look at this ABC News video!

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/bmw-adm...ry?id=11968495
 
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HPFP "campaign on effected vehicles"

Hey guys, great job notifying the community of the potential problem.

After reading the thread I called my dealer and asked service tech about the "campaign." He said he was aware of the campaign, but that my VIN# (2010 C2) was not "effected." He further stated there would have been an annotation in bright red in the computer regarding the applicability of the campaign specfically to my car. I am told that my car is "in the clear" and not effected by the campaign.

Interestingly, I have experienced "stalling" when the car is first fired on multiple occassions. By that I mean the car actually fires and turns over for a second or two and then, mysteriously, shuts off. Car is not in motion, but just on start-up. It then re-fires without incident. This has happened three or four times in the last few months but I always chalked it up to being a garage queen. Anybody else have similar "stalling" (not sure it's the most apt description, but it is close) issues on a 2010 or later?

Anyone with a 2010, build date of May and later get the HPFP replaced, or check to see if their particular VIN is "effected?" Obviously I would rather handle this prospectively than wait until stranded somewhere.

Thx.
 


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