So I am under certified warranty for another 1 1/2 years and struggle if I should wait until my warranty expires before flashing my ECU or is it a low risk of having issues if I do it now. I really want to do the flash now but was wondering if anyone did it before the warranty was up and had any issues with claims?

 

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You can do it because it cant be detected by the dealer, but it could be detected if the computer was sent back to porsche. hardly any reason ever , that this would happen. Basically you should be using a dealer that is friendly to modifying the car.

 

I know there is alot of speculation that Porsche won't be able to see this with certain flashes but what I'm looking for is anyone who has actually had any issues. There has been alot of debate that they cannot see it but is there anyone out there who has actually had a claim denied because of a flashed ECU?

 

If you're worried and uncertain, don't do it since you'll continue to be worried and uncertain.

 

What are you expecting from a reflash? You may alter the shape of the torque and power curves, but you won't gain much additional power unless you spin the engine to a higher redline (not a good idea at all on a 911). Contrary to what a lot of aftermarketers want to tell you, Porsche did not leave " a lot on the table" when they mapped your engine.

Yes, there may be a few dips in the curve to meet certain emissions or other regulations, but max torque and power are set by the ability go the engine to pump air. I've never seen the value of flashing a naturally aspirated engine.

Trust me, if you have a major warranty claim for the engine, Porsche will determine if it's been flashed So if your concerned about a warranty claim, save your money and spend it on something else.

 

Yeah, I just can't justify all that headache and money for 10 hp (if that). That's why I went with a set of AWE cats, they are sitting waiting for the SSK and a new steering wheel to arrive before the car is sent to the dealer for installs. The numbers from cats seem to be some of the highest out of the straight bolt on mods, and it does not mess with warranty.

 

I'm not looking to get convinced to do it or not, I absolutely want to do it as I had it on my last 997 (out of warranty) and it made a huge difference. What I'm really looking for is someone who had any experience with a warranty claim who has flashed their ECU. Has anyone been denied a claim because of it? Doesn't sound like it.

 

Which tune did you have?

 

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jabed,

even if you find one person who had a claim rejected what does that mean. It could be one timeout of 5000 cars with flashed ecu's. If you look hard enough you can probable find a case where a claim was rejected.

I'm just not sure it means much.

 

Go with softronic it's not detectable as long as you restore your original file before visiting the dealer.

 

ok, alteration of the ECU code is a reason to void a warranty claim if your engine has died. when you give car with dead engine to dealer they will test it and they can/will ship engine and ECU to PCNA for review.

to some extent any smart tech with PIWIS can determine if ECu has stock code or ws flashed. no dealer will do it just to 'punish' you during regular oil change or at usual visit. but IF you have an engine related issue where Porsche may need to give you a new motor - they will check everything.

with softronic you can flash back you original code and from what people say - it should not be detectable. i prefer to beleive this version.

 

[quote=utkinpol;3366610]ok, alteration of the ECU code is a reason to void a warranty claim if your engine has died. when you give car with dead engine to dealer they will test it and they can/will ship engine and ECU to PCNA for review.

to some extent any smart tech with PIWIS can determine if ECu has stock code or ws flashed. no dealer will do it just to 'punish' you during regular oil change or at usual visit. but IF you have an engine related issue where Porsche may need to give you a new motor - they will check everything.

with softronic you can flash back you original code and from what people say - it should not be detectable. i prefer to beleive this version.[/quote

Yeah I' sure in a complete engine failure they would deny a claim for sure if there was a flash involved. I'm sure they would even be able to detect a Softronic flash in this case. I used to have Revo in my last car and loved it. I don't get how people say they can't feel a differnce. Revo also say they can flash back to stock and it's undetectable. So I'm leaning to go back with Revo as I can also get it cheaper than Softronic. I'm sure there is a list of engine related claims that would require Porsche to come out to inspect the car before a claim is paid and they will def check the ECU. So I'm just weighing the risk of doing it. Seems there is a risk but it's relatively low that I would be in a situation where the Revo would be a cause of a denied claim.

 

I had the Revo and loved it. I really noticed a difference when my car was flashed back to stock. The car was alot more sluggish and I felt the loss of power. I also noticed alot more flat spots in the torque.

 

I see it as an insurance claim, the PCNA are going to try any way shape or form of getting out of supplying you a new engine in the event of failure

PCNA is like the insurance adjuster when the engine goes bad, They can and will dig as deep as they like to void the warrentee, although you could always flash it back and remove any change of detection as others have mentioned.