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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 01:52 PM
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Scarred for Life?

So, as a child, i saw a documentary about the 911s where they told me that the porsches are notorious with their back ends and the waggily tail. That enticed me more than anything to get one when i grew up.

Now that i have one, i am always driving it like a granny from the fear of losing the back end or having the rear end swing like a pendulum.
I am not being able to enjoy the car as i am going around corners really slow whereas this car is made for corners.

How can i get over my fear without getting into trouble?
 
Old Nov 28, 2011 | 01:53 PM
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With the older 993's and such it was common to loose the back end if you lifted in a turn.

now with PSM it is hard to do so even if you do lift....(unless you turn it off and even then I think it willkick back on at some point)

As islands62 suggests, track days and high performance driving schools are a good way to learn.

But it all honesty, on public roads it will be hard to do; unless you really go out of your way to drive like maniac.
 
Old Nov 28, 2011 | 02:43 PM
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I would have no problem breaking the rear end loose on my C2S, and when you learn how to deal with it, it is a lot of fun. There are enough electrical supports on your car that will save you, but going to the track and learning car control is important IMO. Drive it like you stole it! These cars are made for it.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by NorthVan
I would have no problem breaking the rear end loose on my C2S, and when you learn how to deal with it, it is a lot of fun. There are enough electrical supports on your car that will save you, but going to the track and learning car control is important IMO. Drive it like you stole it! These cars are made for it.
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Conquer your fear by wiggling the rear! (in a controlled environment please)
 
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Take it to a local autocross as well as a track day. You will find that a autocross is much cheaper and loads of fun. You will see how tail happy the car actually is.
 
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I once exited at the last minute while driving a bit foolishly in my C2 on an exit that I also, inexplicably, forgot was tremendously sharp. I pretty much made every mistake while in the turn as well, due to my sudden jarring fear of planting the car into the side of the mountain. Remarkably, the car stayed planted. I've been a believer since then.
 
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Slow in fast out. Or just punch it and hold on to dear life!
 
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when I got my 997S I decided to go to a PCA auto cross class and see what it took to push it beyond the limits. I was shocked at how well it gripped and when it finally did kick out, how easy it was to bring to it back around as long as I didn't let off the gas. The cars limits were beyond mine for sure.
 
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Start with a local auto-cross and/or a HPDE. The cars limits will likely exceed your own!
 
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go to track days
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NorthVan
I would have no problem breaking the rear end loose on my C2S.
Ed, you actually have a problem keeping your rear end straight.
 
Old Nov 29, 2011 | 10:42 AM
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Ed, you actually have a problem keeping your rear end straight.
LMAO, I am being careful with my new one...need to find the trigger points and getting it back in check. Having wet cold ground, and curbs nearby isn't the best training grounds. I will play at the track this year and find the limits of the new one.
 


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