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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 10:53 PM
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RUF is one of the most well known Porsche tuners and has great build quilty, service, ect... But $21k or $24k are both mind blowing prices to pay for just a supercharger. I would much rather get the EVO supercharger and keep the extra change for other mods... It delivers much more power and it's much cheaper! Plus, for that money you could easily modify your 997 with all the best andlatest performance upgrades from other tuners!! For example: You could get the EVO supercharger, a full exhaust system of your choice, intake of your choice, short shifter, ECU upgrade, and whatever else you would like... Sorry to say, but you would have to be out of your mind to pay $21k-$24k for only 80-100hp... Just my thoughts
 

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how much is the 997 RT12?
 
Old Jun 3, 2005 | 12:13 AM
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wife wants coilovers first. i repeat, coilovers for wife first.
she'll get it soon, i still need to repair the dents first lol...


why dont u buy it for her lol..
 
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RUF is one of the most well known Porsche tuners and has great build quilty, service, ect... But $21k or $24k are both mind blowing prices to pay for just a supercharger. I would much rather get the EVO supercharger and keep the extra change for other mods... It delivers much more power and it's much cheaper! Plus, for that money you could easily modify your 997 with all the best andlatest performance upgrades from other tuners!! For example: You could get the EVO supercharger, a full exhaust system of your choice, intake of your choice, short shifter, ECU upgrade, and whatever else you would like... Sorry to say, but you would have to be out of your mind to pay $21k-$24k for only 80-100hp... Just my thoughts
As opposed to the 17k extra X50 owners paid for 35hp....too fargin funny !



You get what you pay for with Ruf....and the respect of that company extends to Porsche dealers....How many aftermarket tuners would have Porsche back their products and mods, both in terms of warranty work and admiration ? not many....
 
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As opposed to the 17k extra X50 owners paid for 35hp....too fargin funny !



You get what you pay for with Ruf....and the respect of that company extends to Porsche dealers....How many aftermarket tuners would have Porsche back their products and mods, both in terms of warranty work and admiration ? not many....
That's a great point RufMD, never really looked at it from those eyes... RUF is a great tuner and they are def. a company I would put my trust in... But I'm still quite iffy about spending that much money on just a supercharger, when I could spend it in other ways and achieve more power and performance
 
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Originally posted by Flyin-ByInA-GT2
That's a great point RufMD, never really looked at it from those eyes... RUF is a great tuner and they are def. a company I would put my trust in... But I'm still quite iffy about spending that much money on just a supercharger, when I could spend it in other ways and achieve more power and performance
actually with a n/a car it is very very hard to get extra hp unless u go thru 2 different routes, supercharger & turbocharging = forced induction or the other full built race n/a motor...

2 diiferent ways of tuning both very costly especially to a car that is expensive to begin with.

it's just a matter of personal preference i would go with the ruf unit if i had the money... ruf is know for quality , very expensive and under powering teh figures to their cars..

butas you can see todd's evo s/c has had many satisfied customers in this board from hardcore robyn, wideass vince, ghey kirby and a bunch of other people,,

if someone ends with the ruf kit u will be the first one in this board to have it.

and 2 years warranty including engine if im correct. i do not know what evo's warranty is...

when i still had my 02 n/a 996 i was seriously considering the ruf s/c, it was still under development... but i got a good deal on an 02 TT so i bit the gun and went for it if i had stayed with the n/a i would eb the first ruf rgt kitted sc powered 996 in SOCAL!
 
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Originally posted by RufMD
As opposed to the 17k extra X50 owners paid for 35hp....too fargin funny !



You get what you pay for with Ruf....and the respect of that company extends to Porsche dealers....How many aftermarket tuners would have Porsche back their products and mods, both in terms of warranty work and admiration ? not many....
RUF can make a performance toilet for 10k but my **** will still smell and flush the same.

A supercharger is a supercharger, just because it says RUF on it doesn't mean it is any better. It's not like their product is any different or more innovative than evo's to justify the huge price hike. Hell, even evo's SC is overpriced, but since the product is for a porsche 10k can be swallowed, but if anyone buys this thing for 24k that isn't just stupid, it's just a waste of a lot of money. Anyone who is at the level where they can spend that kind of money didn't get there by blowing 14k pointlessly.

X50 is a different story, it isn't just 35hp, at least you get more in the package than just that power boost, it isn't an apples to apples comparison.

I know you have a big boner for RUF, and they do amazing things and they do have my respect, but unless their supercharger is gold plated and comes with a playmate for a night it isn't worth 24k.
 
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Originally posted by sticky
RUF can make a performance toilet for 10k but my **** will still smell and flush the same.

A supercharger is a supercharger, just because it says RUF on it doesn't mean it is any better. It's not like their product is any different or more innovative than evo's to justify the huge price hike. Hell, even evo's SC is overpriced, but since the product is for a porsche 10k can be swallowed, but if anyone buys this thing for 24k that isn't just stupid, it's just a waste of a lot of money. Anyone who is at the level where they can spend that kind of money didn't get there by blowing 14k pointlessly.

X50 is a different story, it isn't just 35hp, at least you get more in the package than just that power boost, it isn't an apples to apples comparison.

I know you have a big boner for RUF, and they do amazing things and they do have my respect, but unless their supercharger is gold plated and comes with a playmate for a night it isn't worth 24k.
Your use of expletives and sexual references makes your argument much more convincing...

By the way, you're paying too much for gold plating and one night stands with playmates.

 
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Originally posted by sticky
RUF can make a performance toilet for 10k but my **** will still smell and flush the same.

A supercharger is a supercharger, just because it says RUF on it doesn't mean it is any better. It's not like their product is any different or more innovative than evo's to justify the huge price hike. Hell, even evo's SC is overpriced, but since the product is for a porsche 10k can be swallowed, but if anyone buys this thing for 24k that isn't just stupid, it's just a waste of a lot of money. Anyone who is at the level where they can spend that kind of money didn't get there by blowing 14k pointlessly.

X50 is a different story, it isn't just 35hp, at least you get more in the package than just that power boost, it isn't an apples to apples comparison.

I know you have a big boner for RUF, and they do amazing things and they do have my respect, but unless their supercharger is gold plated and comes with a playmate for a night it isn't worth 24k.

Originally posted by RufMD
Your use of expletives and sexual references makes your argument much more convincing...

By the way, you're paying too much for gold plating and one night stands with playmates.

That's !!!
 
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The additional cost attributed to supposed "RUF quality" is crap. The big reason there is such a huge difference in cost is the Euro exchange rate. I find it interesting that some attribute higher quality just because it is more expensive.

While Ruf may very well have high quality supercharger, it is not a proven system and the HP numbers are amnemic. Ruf's reputation is solid but in my mind, Evo is just as good. I would also prefer to support a U.S. based Tuner who can meet my needs and not suffer the pangs of a Euro exchange.
 
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The additional cost attributed to supposed "RUF quality" is crap. The big reason there is such a huge difference in cost is the Euro exchange rate. I find it interesting that some attribute higher quality just because it is more expensive.

While Ruf may very well have high quality supercharger, it is not a proven system and the HP numbers are amnemic. Ruf's reputation is solid but in my mind, Evo is just as good. I would also prefer to support a U.S. based Tuner who can meet my needs and not suffer the pangs of a Euro exchange.
You have a point on the Euro exchange, I agree.

However as far as supporting a US based tuner, how many of those would send a tech out to your house for warranty work ? How many would do warranty work well after the warranty time is up (standing by the product) ? How many would have the respect of the dealer so that Porsche warranty work is never an issue ? I would guess not many, and this is where the value of Ruf work comes into play. As far as anemic hp numbers, I have personal experience that Ruf hp numbers are conservative.
 
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You have a point on the Euro exchange, I agree.

However as far as supporting a US based tuner, how many of those would send a tech out to your house for warranty work ? How many would do warranty work well after the warranty time is up (standing by the product) ? How many would have the respect of the dealer so that Porsche warranty work is never an issue ? I would guess not many, and this is where the value of Ruf work comes into play. As far as anemic hp numbers, I have personal experience that Ruf hp numbers are conservative.
couldn't say it better. You pay for the peace of mind.
I rather have the work done right and pay more than pay less and work out the headache over time.
 
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X50 is a different story, it isn't just 35hp, at least you get more in the package than just that power boost, it isn't an apples to apples comparison.
You get nothing more than the power boost with the X50 package unless you have a tiptronic, in which case they beef up the internals of the transmission.
 
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You get nothing more than the power boost with the X50 package unless you have a tiptronic, in which case they beef up the internals of the transmission.
You are completly wrong!!
 
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You are completly wrong!!
Please elaborate. Unless you own a tip, nothing other than engine components are changed in order to achieve the power gain. There are no driveline, suspension, braking, cosmetic or interior improvements. It is called the X50 powerkit for a reason.
 

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