Largely irrelevant. If the car is older, you get 2 years. If still under the 4 year warranty, you get 2 years past the factory warranty. The mileage is largely irrelevant as few cars you will look at are anywhere near the mileage max.

 

Is turbo 09 with PDK feasible @ 100K?

I really couldn't find any 997.2 turbo at price under 120k

 

997.2 turbo with pdk is a '10 model and you won't find one in your price range. That's why that poster said to get the 09 tip model.

 

How about a C4S for around 77, with less than 2500 miles?

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...26068288&Log=0

 

The man lives in Boston and needs a DD. 997.2 C4S or turbo CPO is the way to go. GT3 is silly for him. As far as MT vs PDK they are both great and we are lucky to be able to actually choose. Drive them both during your commute and make a decision. Personally would not want to learn to drive stick in Boston in a 911 but it's your call.
Good luck.

 

Based on the criteria, price being an important limiting factor, I'd also recommend a C4S PDK.

Not as much torque, but a lot of the same experiences/control/daily drivability.

 

Are you driving this in snow? If not I would encourage you to drive both the C2s and 4s to form your own opinion. To me the C2s is more fun to drive than the 4s due to the much lighter steering feel. Of course, if you are driving it all winter get the 4s...

If I were in your shoes, I would throw that all out the window and go for the power of the Turbo, then GTS.

 

get a 07-09 Turbo! You will love it. I would drive all the cars on your list and see what you feel most comfortable in. You should drive a GTR too. GTR sounds like a perfect car for you and will hold its value a lot more than a non-turbo or non-gt porsche.

 

Where are you located? The is a lightly used 2012 991 at the dealer in Greenwhich, Connecticut for $105k... I am sure that they would sell it to you cheaper than there asking price. You probably could get it for $95k

 

You need to drive a few or be driven in them; My first experience was my wife 05 manual Boxster. second was my 2009 C4S PDK . installed paddle shifter and joined the porsche club and started tracking it for 2 seasons, about 12 times now. Loved it so much I got a 2007 GT3. Now learning to shift/downshift in this precision, visceral car and enjoying it immensely. When I drive my 09 C4S it is heavier and more sedate (but so much better than most other cars). The GT3's low front lip makes driveways and speed bumps a challenge; replacement lips are a reality. Big gas mileage difference between a GT1 engine and a DFI engine 2009+; Consider an 09 C2S, CPO or non CPO with a good indy shop PPI, PDK or manual; drive it; enjoy it; consider then a used 991 down the road in 1-2 years. Just don't drive a GT3 ; it will captivate you.

 

Jeez people, I will repeat. The guy needs a DAILY DRIVER in Boston. His choices are somewhat limited to a C4S or a Turbo Tip/PDK car. Trying to learn stick in city traffic in the snow belt in a rear wheel drive only car is not what we should be recommending. He can always do the maybe more sensible thing and spend $80K on a CPO C2S Stick and $15k on a Nissan pathfinder/insert your 4wd suv here. That's what I do.

 

Agree with BLKPPR. Get a C2S, PDK or manual; Drive a SUV in winter with snow tires AWD; winterize the Porsche; join the local PCA; have a few DE track days in 2013; Have fun. Even if you get a C4S you would need winter tires/ rims for sub 35 degree temps;

 

Said he couldn't do GT-R. Not his style... Ironically - I agree with you. It sounds like the perfect car for him. Lower initial cost, retains value, loads of torque, dual clutch, AWD, and it can handle freezing temps even on summer tires (done it), because of the computers... Put all-seasons on it, and call it a day, no need to switch to snow tires (Boston has a decent snow program).

The only concern would be the ride height of the car for streets that have not been plowed yet. But you'll experience that with any of the sports cars he is considering.

 

Charles: Welcome ! Your brief needs a bit more info; how many pcars have you driven or rode in ? Which spec. and in what conditions, dry, wet ? The thread advise is clear: you need a pdk, and winter tires, but what you really need is seat time. Get out and visit at least three dealers, just leave the check book hidden. Allow maybe 4 to 6 hours even if over several days. Make notes about each ride, the model, and check out the tires of each; the awd models will have wider rears. These are great cars but if the rubber is wrong your info can be affected. Be prepare to just take in data, try and resist the need to get a deal settled. If you see THE car you'll be back.

When you get to Ira or Chambers get the keys of even a car slightly outside your parameters. By the third or fourth test you'll begin to relax and maybe even push the pcar; drive it aggressively rather than like is going to break. And yes the the CPO is probably a great investment; it adds about $3k to $4k to the cost, but usually means that the rubber is up-to-date, as well as other checks.

Good luck and enjoy the search !

 

for $100K..??

1- 991
2- 997 GTS

personally, i would take the GT3 like NorthVan's and spend the extra $ on upgrades. lol