This is all the info I think that we need right?

http://www.planet-9.com/cayman-boxst...vic-120bt.html

When I'm ready to blow some money to get a really good system, I'll contact the local high end car audio dealer. I'm thinking arc audio or zapco amps, and either rainbow, helix, or hertz seperates if it can be done.

I also would like to run a front stage only with the sub in back. I don't need the rear speakers for fill. I've had similar systems on other sportscars that I've had before the GTS and I like it.

 

As an FYI, here is a (bad quality cell) photo of the factory Bose speakers that came out of my 997.1: dash, doors, rear seat, rear sub box

 

Thanks for the picture, those speakers look so small!
What did you do to the center speaker, leave it? What did you set up in your car?

I looked over the list on the first page, and I liked everything. The only thing is the focals seem to be a bit over my budget at $4 to $5 grand just for the speakers.

I'm figuring about 2 grand for the head unit, $400 for a decent amp like the one listed, a few bucks here and there for harness, bezel and such. I already have the subwoofer but have to make an enclosure. I have the amp already for the sub.

So I want to get decent speakers but not at focal price.

I reallly liked the jbl processor at $500, that might also be in reach and good for the car. The alpine seemed to be only for certain alpine double dins but it was hard to tell online.

Great link too on the chart for the bose wiring harness.

thanks to all!

 

Good stuff.

That's how I run mine. Although I think I'll add an additional footwell sub.

If you only care about sound quality and soundstage for the driver and you have a processor with time delay, you could easily just leave it out the center stage. If you want to have the best compromise sound for driver and passenger, stick in a good quality center channel and make sure your processor supports a center. MS-8 does a good job of this. Personally, I only run left/right.

Oh come on, they're worth every penny. Al-Eds (authorized dealer) has them for $3,200 for the "active" version (perfect with any processor that has a built-in crossover). The loudspeakers are the components that have the biggest impact on sound quality (in addition to the tuning from your processor), so I would encourage devoting the bulk of your budget on them.

Unless you're interested in the 8" Alpine, the flagship units from Pioneer, Kenwood, and Alpine run only $700-$1200.

The Alpine PXA-H800 will work with non-Alpine systems with the add-on RUX-C800. It's supposedly a good system. Uses the Imprint system to EQ your cabin. The older Alpine processors use Audissey, which is also good. I use the JBL MS-8 and I'm very happy with it.

 

Hi there... I'm VERY interested in your experience with the MS-8. I had the "sound package plus" in my car. I ripped everything out and put in 3-way Audison speakers, a Hertz amp, a custom sub in the Bose location. I'm running passive crossovers on the speakers with no processor and even with the tweeters attenuated as far as I can get them, it all sounds a bit too bright.

I've been debating whether or not a processor like the MS-8 would be worth the additional investment and work. Right now, everything fits under the covers with no modifications to the interior. Not quite sure where I'd mount the MS-8. And, since I did all the work myself, I've been wondering if all I need is a pro to help me install the speakers better, with more deadening in the doors, etc. But I think it's really just a processing issue - too many reflections off the windshield.

Would love your thoughts, and more info about your install!

 

so is there any upsides for one over the other, the ms-8 or the alpine system? I'm assuming you chose one over the other for a reason. both seem to be priced the same. I use similar software tweaking on my home system and it really helps. At home I run the software, then the only thing I do different is use the spl meter to equal the level for my sitting area for each speaker.

I just ordered the jl 6ichannel amp as I am sure that is one piece of the system I will want.
You are 100% right about the speaker being the main part of the system that will make the biggest difference. I may have to simply graduate to that point as I go along. I may actually just start with the amp and headunit, then save my money to get the best speakers I can but use the stock for now. I kind of have to keep the budget in parts to keep it under the wadar, (wife radar).
Are there other speakers like focal that may be a bit more in my budget? Would I be better off doing a two channel system with subwoofer with focal than with more speakers of a lesser quality speaker? If so I may just start with focal as a two channel. At home for music listening I do two channel with my Polk SDA's but multiple speakers only for movies.
I'll be happy with anything other than what I have now. I don't expect to match or surpass a home system, I just want quality audio when driving. I like the sound of the car and the road, but that goes with music just like beer and football.

 

Nice system!! Strange how the Audisons are still bright, even on the max tweeter attenuation. Did you double check your wiring polarity?

The MS-8 does amazing things right out of the box. The calibration mic and the processor algorithm perform level matching, time delay, and cabin EQ - so you get a pretty impressive correction in about 5 mins, and this includes a solid and balanced soundstage. To get the best results, you'd need to run each driver active (i.e. 6-channels to the 3-way pair, or 4-channels, 2 for midbass and 2 for the mid/tweet combo using the passive network between the mid/tweet). The downside is that it raises the noise floor a bit, it's hard to do any tweaking beyond adjusting the crossovers, an graphical EQ, and tone controls, and you're adding an additional ADC/DAC stage.

The usual places would be under the passenger seat, in the frunk storage bins (any room left?), or perhaps in the glovebox. You could also make a false frunk floor. You've probably also seen the totally custom frunk jobs too. If you're not happy with your sound, and you don't want to upgrade your speakers, I think a processor would totally make sense. Deadening is good too, if your panels are resonanating.

Well, the Alpine H800 wasn't out yet at the time, so I didn't really have a choice. They're both good systems. The H800 is more customizable and the interface is more sophisticated. The MS-8 is simpler to use, but their correction algorithm is amazing. The JBL mic measurement system uses spatial averages and binaural mics, which seems like a superior method of taking in-car measurements. But you probably can't go wrong either way.

See if you can take a listen to:
- Focal 165KRX3
- consider the Focal 165-WRC (2-ways system, but it includes the Focal Be tweeter)
- any components speakers from Audison, Hertz, Dynaudio, Morel, or Rainbow
- JBL 660GTi's are supposed to be good (2-way)
- Alpine SPX-17Pro should be pretty good (2-way), uses scanspeak drivers

Reasonable systems here:
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...e-and-swc.html
...though I don't 100% agree with all of it...

If you don't have an unlimited budget, and you want the best quality sound, do 2-channel + sub. This is how a lot of sound-quality systems are configured.

Amen and pass the biscuits.

 

Man you are really helping a brother out! I just ordered a brand new jbl ms8 processor. I liked the method of using the mic/headset to adjust the driver side and or the passenger side.

The speakers by rainbow look nice, I saw a set of germanium that had good reviews. the focal k2 might be a cheaper alternative to the higher end focals, but I don't know if they fit. My wife had a car stereo in her old yukon. the component speakers are mmats, 6.5, a 4" mid, and tweeters. Any opinions on them? I was thinking of getting a k2 focal with the 6.5 2way, tweeters and then using the mmats 4"mid in the door, and the mmats 6.5 in the rear. Or, skip the rear as many have done. I have a 6channel jbl amp coming soon, should I keep the center channel or just unhook it? I don't use a center channel in my home stereo/theater set up because I have special SDA speakers which negates a center.

 

Got a package that does it all

Stage 3

Alpine INE-W927HD
Sirius
Ipod Cable
JL Audio XD600/6
Focal PolyGlass P165V33
Focal Polyglass PS 100
Wire Install Amp kit Stinger
Alpine HCE-C104 Camera
Porsche Silver Dash Install Kit
DRC Sub (2) 6W3V34
Upgrade Amp XD700/5 (instead of the XD600/6)

Total Shipped 4000.00 Inc Shipping

 

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I've had rainbow speakers in 2 other cars and you can't go wrong with them and I prefer front stage and sub configs. Rear fill is unnecessary in a 911.

 

DYN Audio 8" 3way x362 compnets are a beast in the 911. thoes alone with a good 150x2 amp is all you need it you want to keep weight down and have killer sound.

 

From my experience we use alot of the JL XD600/6 and XD700/5

some advice put the amp under the passenger seat.

use a good quality RCA, Stinger 8000 series are affordable and have the TDK style build in noise filters (fer-rite filters).

Use a good 4 awg power wire and there is always a chance for noise when dealing with a 911.

If your using crossovers with ths speakers make sure they are mounted high up on the fire wall or where the factory amp is
if you put the cross overs in the kick panel next to the fuse boxes be prepared for engine wind.

Other than that good luck if you need some parts or advice just email me we always try to help forum people an I do about 3-5 Porsche install a week.

 

Dynaudio is ok with me too. I notice all pics are from 997.1. Any pics for a 997.2 with bose?