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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 09:41 PM
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Carrera S no LSD??? Comparison question inside!

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I'm almost in the final steps of acquiring my first Porsche (a 997.2 C2S), and upon doing much research, I've just learned that these cars do not come equipped with an LSD as a standard option. I read all about the SPASM (P17) and 220 (single LSD) options, neither of which are very common based on what I've seen.

I'm not going to let the news rain on my parade, however, I do admit to being slightly disappointed, as I was always under the impression that Porsche would never deprive a sports car of something as crucial as an LSD.

I've gotten to test drive quite a few C2S's, and I've been impressed by all, but none of the test drives have taken place on a track; the question becomes: how does the performance of a non-LSD Porsche compare to the performance of other relevant sports cars that come equipped with an LSD? (ex: e9x M3) I rarely go to a track, but have owned quite a few cars that came equipped with LSD's so I became used to what an LSD has to offer, specially when cornering.

I realize that the answers to this question may be on the subjective side, but I'd like to hear what the community has to say.

Thank you!
 
Old Mar 14, 2013 | 11:43 PM
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Sway bars aren't common either. I guess the PSM (stability management) and PASM (active suspension) are why- the software would be battling with mechanics. All 'lectronic.
 
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Mine came with LSD, keep looking and if you really want that option one will come up.

I do agree it is rare, mine was the only one I saw that came with it.
 
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Mine came with LSD, keep looking and if you really want that option one will come up.

I do agree it is rare, mine was the only one I saw that came with it.
Man I wish it were that simple...statistics/odds have made me lose hope. Unless I order a new car (which I won't do), what are the chances I'll find one with an LSD AND the other options I'm considering?!

I've almost given up on the idea of the LSD on a used 911.
 
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I got my 09 CS last year and went thru the same thing. Surprise, disappointment and then after One year I realized what the dealer told me "The car really doesn t need it" and something about how LSD hampers the cars handling was true. I haven t tracked my car either but can say this car handles better than any other car that I ve had that had LSD.
 
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Originally Posted by cerbomark
I got my 09 CS last year and went thru the same thing. Surprise, disappointment and then after One year I realized what the dealer told me "The car really doesn t need it" and something about how LSD hampers the cars handling was true. I haven t tracked my car either but can say this car handles better than any other car that I ve had that had LSD.
I'm on the same boat...driven a few c2s's and loved them, love the way they handle, but haven't tracked any or pushed them to the limit. In the past I've parted from (or stopped considering) cars due to lack of LSD, which is why I came here and asked the question: how's does it compare to it's competitors that do have an LSD?
 
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Don't forget, we are talking about a rear engine car here too with the 911. Makes a world of difference in many ways.
Well consider a Corvette, it s got LSD and doesn t have anything in handling over the 911 (IMO).
 
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If I was interested in 1/4 mile times then I reconsider....
 
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Originally Posted by cerbomark
Don't forget, we are talking about a rear engine car here too with the 911. Makes a world of difference in many ways.
Well consider a Corvette, it s got LSD and doesn t have anything in handling over the 911 (IMO).
Which vette? A c6? A c6 z06? I'm just trying to compare to other cars of similar value and purpose. Personally, I dislike vettes with a passion, therefore I'm not sticking for the car, but based on reviews I hear that they handle amazing, even for having leaf springs in the rear. E92 M3 is also another competitor with an LSD. Just wondering if anyone has made a direct comparison between all these cars.

And yes, the added weight over the rear tires is a game changer, I'm just concerned about the way the car behaves when it loses traction or comes out of a corner.
 
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Originally Posted by 911Stud
Which vette? A c6? A c6 z06? I'm just trying to compare to other cars of similar value and purpose. Personally, I dislike vettes with a passion, therefore I'm not sticking for the car, but based on reviews I hear that they handle amazing, even for having leaf springs in the rear. E92 M3 is also another competitor with an LSD. Just wondering if anyone has made a direct comparison between all these cars.

And yes, the added weight over the rear tires is a game changer, I'm just concerned about the way the car behaves when it loses traction or comes out of a corner.
A track guy should answer that but I bet it s not an issue.
I m sure all the vets and M3 s are good cars too in which it comes down to a feel for each car. My choice was Z06 or 911. Having several MB s I prefer the German engineering and feel and quality. If it s not a track car why worry about fractions of a second? That can be overcome by skill anyway.
 
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BTW, my car came from Ft Meyers Porsche, call Jarrod and he ll find you a car like he did for me. Hey, consider a 4S.
 
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Originally Posted by cerbomark
BTW, my car came from Ft Meyers Porsche, call Jarrod and he ll find you a car like he did for me. Hey, consider a 4S.
Cool! All good points. I live in Jacksonville Fl but I just flew into DC today and I'll be checking out the car tomorrow morning, with the intent of buying if all goes well.

Since I don't have to endure snow, I prefer the c2s over the c4s, but we all agree that the wider body is indeed sexier. Also, the c4s comes with an LSD regardless, which I found out recently.

If this car ends up not being what I want, I'll send Jarrod a shout out
 
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Find one of the latest Road and Track magazine with the Porsche cayman (yellow) possibly on the cover and read the winter road test story.... it s amazing what these cars can do with no LSD and the right tires.
 
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Originally Posted by cerbomark
Find one of the latest Road and Track magazine with the Porsche cayman (yellow) possibly on the cover and read the winter road test story.... it s amazing what these cars can do with no LSD and the right tires.
Yes sir, will do!
 
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Originally Posted by 911Stud
Man I wish it were that simple...statistics/odds have made me lose hope. Unless I order a new car (which I won't do), what are the chances I'll find one with an LSD AND the other options I'm considering?!

I've almost given up on the idea of the LSD on a used 911.

Simple solution....search for the best car you can find......then if it does not have LSD...... retrofit it!!
 

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