Did anyone watch the 2013 F1 Malaysian race ?


Did Vettel deserve the win ?

(No. Not in my opinion..)

Senna vs Prost, all over again.


Did Hamilton deserve the 3rd place finish ?

(No. Rosberg was faster..)



and how about Sutil and Button ??

both had to retire due to all the problems in the pit.

Unbelievable.


Not to mention Ferrari's curious decision to let Alonso continue without a pit stop to fix the damaged front wing.. resulting in race-ending catastrophe on 2nd lap for Alonso.


What an amazing weekend for Formula 1

 

This is why qualifying is more exciting.
There's just something inherently wrong with "structured "racing.

I lost all respect for F1 back when Barricello almost stopped behind the finish line in Monte Carlo so Schumi could win.

 

That Ferrari bit was insane. I was stunned when his front end blew apart.

 

apparently it's all about the business and the big money that comes with winning the constructors championship.
I was very disappointing with the Red Bull and Merc teams in the way they "managed" the last third of the race. Did not make for an exciting finish ..... and the podium celebration and interviews were the most awkward and subdued that I've ever witnessed.

I say, let the drivers race and may the best man & car win!

 

This happens all the time. Mostly just not as obvious.

F1 rules often change to diminish one teams advantage over another. If there is a dominating team, the excitement stops. FIA loves sparks and excitement

If these drivers race cleanly, then there wouldn't be a need for team orders. Clearly, having two wins is better than two wrecks in a team. There should be more black flag for bumping and intentional collisions.

As for Alonso, let's hope he learned his lesson. Why can't they tow the car for repair instead of leaving the race? F1 rules are stupid

 

Did Alonso ignore directions to come in or was he following orders?
In any case.... the beginning of the race was just a mess. Pit lane crashes, mis matched tires, just crazy town. I'm new to F1 but absolutely love it.

 

+1. I do not like the team orders. Both drivers are there to drive and win...stop deciding the race and taking the excitement out of the end.

A man behind a computer screen should not control a race.

 

The best part of the race was the quick pit stops. 2.3 seconds to change 4 wheels in one case! The funniest part was Hamilton accidentally going to the McLaren pit instead of the Mercedes pit.

 

Some thoughts on the GP.

Team orders have always been a a part of F1 and always will be. The difference now is that F1 recognizes and allows team orders.

BTW the incident that another poster was referring to regarding Ferrari was Austria in 2002 and not Monte Carlo.

One would think that after losing the 2012 championship by 3 points that Alonso would have come in for a new nose. Throwing away a points paying finish does not make any sense. To think the front wing could have survived another lap given the down force that is generated is ludicrous.

I think the analogy to that of Prost/Senna is a good one. Should make for an interesting year.

 

Vettel is obviously going to be made out to be the bad guy for disobeying team orders. The post race coverage of the drivers in the waiting room was pure comedy and arguably the most uncomfortable 10 minutes of television I've seen in a while. The boy racer in all of us probably would have acted like Vettel, however, when there is so much money at stake for the constructors cup, I can understand the teams stance. Vettel is and has been the superior driver compared to Webber for a while now, pride just took over. Reality is no one will remember what happened in a couple years and the only thing people will see is Vettel's name as the race winner...I'm not a Vettel fan btw. Go Kimi!

 

I agree with most of what was posted, except for one thing: team orders were not for Vettel to win because he is the best chance at another world title out of the two (I don't think anyone will argue against that point).
Team orders were: we have positions 1 and 2 in the race, turn your engines down, hold position and cruise to the finish. This is done to preserve engines, gear boxes, etc. so they can last one more race down the road.
Hold position being the operative command here. Webber (in 1st) complied. Vettel decided he was going to take that opportunity to overtake his teammate in clear violation of the team's orders.

If he was my driver, I would have ordered him back to second place in no uncertain terms or face a stiff fine (one that stings badly enough not to do it again).

This was not a case of team orders favoring the better driver (which is what Ferrari has done many times in the past), but rather team orders favoring the driver who is actually in the lead and the other driver ignoring those orders...

 

I don't disagree but, even though the circumstances were a quite different, people still "remember" Pironi passing Villenueve at San Marino. For Red Bull it's a non-issue if the drivers kiss and make up, at least publically. (I hope someone has reminded Webber what happened to Villenueve, who couldn't seem to get past his anger, during the next race (qualifying) at Zolder (Belgian G.P.).)

 

F1 has always been about the constructors, the drivers championship is just something to make the drivers feel special.

 

i disagree.

although qualifying shows us the fastest car and driver, it is obviously not exciting as the actual race where the unexpected happens.

it was disappointing.. but expected. That is until Vettel decided to ignored team orders.. then it got exciting again. lol


yeah that was priceless !

Exactly !

I couldn't believe it when Alonso didn't pit...

Bravo. i agree with everything.

i am also Kimi fan, but Lotus looks slow compared to others. I am not sure how many races they can win even with better tire management.


funny and true.

 

It's hard for me to watch the Malaysian GP and not think about 2009. They 'raced' for roughly 31 laps - most driven behind the safety car - before it was called off due to rain and the loss of daylight hours. A long way to fly and a ton of cash spent for a tee shirt and a mug. Still, Sepang is one amazing race track. I was hoping to see the German GP this year but I miss it by one week.