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Old May 12, 2013 | 08:51 AM
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Track tire pressure for Michelin SS

Will be using Michelin SS for he first time to the track next weekend. (First track day for he tires, not for me ;-)
Looking for some advise where the sweet spot is in tire pressure on the track.

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Old May 12, 2013 | 11:18 AM
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Do you mean the pilot super sports? If so, I started out at 32/36 and should have released some pressure as the day wore on. I found that as the surface warmed up and the pressures got up around 44 on the rear that the started to get a little greasy. That being said, I'm a super novice and had other things to concentrate on so hopefully someone else can validate that.
 
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I used 30/34 on a cool day and the hots ended up at around 35/41 on my GTS. It took a couple of laps to get the temps up to temperature.
 
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Do a search and see what you find. I know there was a very extensive post from someone who tested the SS's for 2 days and came up with his thoughts on the perfect pressure. I remember thinking his reasoning seemed very sound.
 
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i did a couple of DE's with my old 997.2 3.6 on the MSS. What i had noticed is that anything of 40psi hot, the car would slide more... So i used to start the session as low as 32psi. i was running the factory 18s, size 235/265...

Same results when autocrossing... Anything over 40 the tires slide more... To me the sweet spot is 38-40 hot...

Now with my 997.2 4S, running again on the MSS, i notice the same thing when autox. Anything over 40 the car slides more... Based on that, i am assuming it will be the same at DE events. Now again i am running the factory 19s 235/305...
 
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Many thanks, very informative
 
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What I learned this weekend on the track (Laguna - Seca):
The sweet spot for me seemed to be between 34 and 36 PSI (hot).
As soon as the tires reached 38 PSI I noticed that the tires started to slide more.
And that poses the following question:
The tires gained between 6 to 8 PSI from cold to hot. So if I am aiming for 36 PSI, I would have to start with a pressure below 30 PSI. What's the lowest "safe" pressure where I don't run the risk of damaging the tires?
 
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Did the pressures increase with subsequent runs or did you reach those numbers in the first cycle? At thunder hill I noticed the tires getting slightly higher readings with each session but that could have been me pushing the car more as the day went on.
 
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they went higher in the range as the ambient and track temperatures went up.
So basically after each session (except the last) I had to let like 2 PSI out
 
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Good to know. I think I'll start out around 32/36 and feel that out and then ease down as needed. I always bring a small compressor with me to add some back for the ride home.
 
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Depending on track conditions, ambient temperature the PSS in my experience I run cold 29/32 on my GT3; 34/37 on my C4S. I find that I try to keep the rears around 36 hot Rears; 34 Fronts; above 40 they get that greasy feeling. Have been on the track when it is raining and ambient temperature in the 40s -50s and they hardly bump up in psi. And I second that to add some air via a portable compressor for the ride home.
 
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I'm heading down to buttonwillow this weekend where I expect the ambient temps to be unpleasantly around 90. I'll post my findings when I return.
 
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But it's a dry heat.
Start hydrating a couple days before and during the day; Find a friend with shade cover and have fun.
 
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Originally Posted by seapar
Depending on track conditions, ambient temperature the PSS in my experience I run cold 29/32 on my GT3; I find that I try to keep the rears around 36 hot Rears; 34 Fronts; above 40 they get that greasy feeling. Have been on the track when it is raining and ambient temperature in the 40s -50s and they hardly bump up in psi. And I second that to add some air via a portable compressor for the ride home.
Are these Michelin SS on the GT3?
Any idea what's the lowest pressure you can safely start on on cold tires?

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