Looking for more aggressive sound
I heard Akrapovic has the exotic sound maybe your looking for. I think its super expensive but sounds pretty good found this clip on youtube http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IVKiz****Yg or just type in akrapovic 997
The Cargraphic is just loud enough to hear inside the cabin, but louder to the outside world if that matters to you. It's made in Germany for German roads, which means sustained 5K rpm runs on the autobahns. No German manufacturer is going to make anything too loud as you couldn't take it as hard as you drive there, and Germany frowns on noise pollution and mods in general. America is way different. People only experience loud at short spurts. Cargraphic is a perfect real world exhaust.
"having some racing experience, you enjoy knowing where your car is simply from the sound of the engine note".
I hear you and totally agree. Throttle, RPM's and exhaust note should all be in synch in order to determine where the car is - even if you were driving with a blind fold.
I hear you and totally agree. Throttle, RPM's and exhaust note should all be in synch in order to determine where the car is - even if you were driving with a blind fold.
I heard Akrapovic has the exotic sound maybe your looking for. I think its super expensive but sounds pretty good found this clip on youtube http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IVKiz****Yg or just type in akrapovic 997
No problem just been listening to a lot of exhausts and that company seems to have the best exotic sound i think. Super expensive but i guess you pay for what you get. You have any idea on what your going with? I did the gundo amd its pretty decent well atleast better then stock.
i'm planning on making the leap to the Afterhours exhaust - having found one for sale. i started with gundo'd stock cans (both pypass pipes - like fister) and went to the Cargraphics. the Cargraphics are nice, but a bit civilized. ;-) i'm going to try the AHs and see how they are. eventually, i'll wind up with the sound i'm looking for. i've been through so many exhaust systems on several different marques over the years, that it's no big deal to keep looking and trying different systems - unless you can hear what you are interested in firsthand. very unlikely i'd find a 997S with X51 headers and 200 cell cats with the AH exhaust in the Dallas area. making the leap...
i'm planning on making the leap to the Afterhours exhaust - having found one for sale. i started with gundo'd stock cans (both pypass pipes - like fister) and went to the Cargraphics. the Cargraphics are nice, but a bit civilized. ;-) i'm going to try the AHs and see how they are. eventually, i'll wind up with the sound i'm looking for. i've been through so many exhaust systems on several different marques over the years, that it's no big deal to keep looking and trying different systems - unless you can hear what you are interested in firsthand. very unlikely i'd find a 997S with X51 headers and 200 cell cats with the AH exhaust in the Dallas area. making the leap...
i'm planning on making the leap to the Afterhours exhaust - having found one for sale. i started with gundo'd stock cans (both pypass pipes - like fister) and went to the Cargraphics. the Cargraphics are nice, but a bit civilized. ;-) i'm going to try the AHs and see how they are. eventually, i'll wind up with the sound i'm looking for. i've been through so many exhaust systems on several different marques over the years, that it's no big deal to keep looking and trying different systems - unless you can hear what you are interested in firsthand. very unlikely i'd find a 997S with X51 headers and 200 cell cats with the AH exhaust in the Dallas area. making the leap...
Thank you for your feedback so far, I am curious how did you like the Cargraphic compared to the Gundo? I was set on the Gundo until I found used Cargraphic for close to the same price, to me it was a no brainer, but I am curious of your thoughts.
Thank you!!!
v35, the cargraphic is growing on me, but it's just a bit too subtle for me. if i find the AH too aggressive, i'll look for yet another option to try. thankfully, at this point, swapping them out is easy with the bracket bolts in upside down. you simply drop the mufflers.
carnut, the cargraphics certainly sounds very nice. it's got a mellow start up and idle, but opens up a bit above 3k rpm. 3-4k range is a nice, deep sound, but i wish the sound/tone would continue to climb beyond 5k. with my gundo'd stock cans, their was a different tone from 3-4k and 5-7k - it would gain a new pitch in the higher range. the cargraphic seems to reach a certain tone and stay there from 3k and up. i did have the dual bypass pipes on my gundo'd cans though, so that may have improved the overall sound. i'm sure the CGs are plenty loud enough for many and the deeper tone is preferred. it also has a nice, subtle pop on decel and downshifts.
carnut, the cargraphics certainly sounds very nice. it's got a mellow start up and idle, but opens up a bit above 3k rpm. 3-4k range is a nice, deep sound, but i wish the sound/tone would continue to climb beyond 5k. with my gundo'd stock cans, their was a different tone from 3-4k and 5-7k - it would gain a new pitch in the higher range. the cargraphic seems to reach a certain tone and stay there from 3k and up. i did have the dual bypass pipes on my gundo'd cans though, so that may have improved the overall sound. i'm sure the CGs are plenty loud enough for many and the deeper tone is preferred. it also has a nice, subtle pop on decel and downshifts.
another interesting comment on the cargraphic mufflers - my mileage has gone down from 16.5 to 16.3 in the week that i have had the mufflers on the car. clearly, i'm driving harder to hear the exhaust better. bottom line, a louder exhaust will also improve your MPG!!
i think if you're really looking for a true cup car sound, it would come from muffler bypass pipes. others may chime in with alternatives, but i think most of the freer-flowing mufflers - AH, Tubi, AP, etc. - give more of a deeper, bass tone. i'm hoping the AHs give a deep wail. we'll see.

have u considered Innotech ? i realize u are trying to keep ur header and the cat.. but those can be sold just like ur mufflers.
Never heard it in person but it sounds pretty damn good in the videos...
also a good clip here (991 and 997)
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