Had a chat with my sales guy who is very nice and pretty well educated to all things Porsche. I complained about the lack of info on the X51 and said I would probably opt for some goodies from EVO at which point he tore into our friends at EVO stating that he and several other sales and technicians had driven a specific AS/Blue S coupe (that was traded on an SY cab) with the EVO ECU/Intake/Exhaust package that they offer for 6-7K and all of them came away saying the car was no faster than a standard S and that anyone who would buy this stuff is taking it in the you know where.

I have met Todd and others at EVO, I have seen dynos, I have heard his cars and seen his producs and have no reason to doubt the veracity of their claims. Certainly the quality of the products I have seen from their shop are very good, in fact better than some of the componentry that escapes the production facilities at Stuttgart.

I'm ranting because all this BS and veiled threats of denied warranty claims really make me feel uncomfortable about buying a car from this dealer and worse yet, they are the only local dealer and I fear the near certain backlash if I were to purchase the car outside of my metro area.

I visit the dealership probably once per month to see color combos to help me with my ordering decision, but these visits are ending negatively. I want this to be fun and a win win for me and the dealer. I am unhappy with how things are progressing as nitpicky as it may be, for 90K and change, as the customer, I don't care if I want a pink car or a jet engine strapped to the roof, just laugh and say whatever you want sir. Am I crazy?

 

And what does he think X51 is, a bargain?

 

I'm sorry to hear about your bad experiences with this dealer and I totally agree with you. You're not crazy... Your their customer, which means you're always right. If they want to make sales, which means money... They should treat customers with kindness, respect, and value their opinion.

This sales guy is obviously trying to force you into buying the X51 package... I understand that he wants to make a bigger sale, but talking garbage about EVOMS is just ridiculous and unacceptable. You doesn't care about how happy you are with you car, he cares about making more money... He's a selfish jerk with a bullsh*t opinion.

If he tries telling you what to get in your car, next time you go there, ask for a different sales rep... If they can't help you, take your business elsewhere.

Just my 2 cents.

 

Actually even though I work for a tuner, Porsche actually somwhat justified the X51 cost on this car in my mind... Its what $8,000?? Thats about what most tuners charge for about the same HP (380ish). Not to mention the PSE is actually a pretty cool exhaust, being a true quad ehxuast and all (and including new tips)...
Shhhhhhh don't tell my boss
Evan

 

I don't care that they are the only local dealer, I mean look at what they are saying, how there making you feel, and most importantly how they are treating you. Sometimes if you want the right service or people you must go that extra mile.

Also your not being nit picky about spending 90k, thats not chump change to most. Your right if you want it a certain way then they should whatever is in their power to make it so.

 

I am a PHX local also. I have the same mods you are referring to on a non S car. Ask Chris at the dealership about my 997. I have had in for service and he was blown away. Good luck, so far so good with the dealership.

 

Aren't the powerkits usually about $12,000 (Turbo X50 was about $18,000), not $8,000. And that doesn't include the PSE.

 

I have heard the X51 for the 997S is going to be around $8K. It does for sure include PSE (and the Carbon Fiber Airbox)... This is the first time it has included the new exhaust (and the exhaust comes with new stainless tips as well), and new airbox to go with the added performance. So now you have what the X51 used to be (peformance) with the addition of a switchable exhaust that includes tips and a carbon fiber airbox for the same price or less...
Finally a good move by Porsche...
Evan

 

That is interesting about the dealer? We have done many cars for them and they seem to like our products. If you could pm me and let me what your salesmens name is, I would like to contact him to see why he would say that... The reason the 997s was traded in for the cab is because his wife wanted a cab. He drove it here right after he purchased it, and had Stage 4 installed on it as well.. Dealers?....

 

Mike, I saw and heard that car, it sounded awesome. I was taken aback by the salesmans' comments. I found it very odd that he had such a negative view of the package and that he would try to steer me away from it and throwing in that his opinion was not the only one. I know from talking to you and Todd that you have both said that you have a working relationship and that they actually sell your products.

My point was, even though I don't hang out with you guys, you have been providing information both on your products and the cars you have been working on which is helping me in my purchase decision and his comments were in effect directed at my "friends" at EVO. If you insult my firends, that is not doing anything for your credibility and possibly jeopardizing his paycheck. I will PM you his name but I want to let him know first that I was unhappy with his comments.

 

I wouldn't worry about backlash due to buying from another dealer, it's your money make the best of it. I live in Boston and bought my car from a dealer in Ohio since they had the car I wanted for a great price.

 

I thought Porsche of North Scottsdale has good relationship with EVOMS. What's up with that?

 

remember that its he said she said....

 

yea, and one guy bashing it doesn't mean they all bash it

 

exactly.. probably just one particular sales guy trying to make a buck...