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Old Sep 23, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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997S real 1/4 mile

I know that there has been much debate about the mags and the speed of the 997S. I went to Raceway Park last night just for a good time, as I am not a drag racer. In any case, I ran my 997S once for the first time ever even driving on the track. I ran 12.9 @ 110 mph. This was achieved with a regular launch (No clutch dropping, some slight wheel spin). I believe this is what Car & Driver posted. With an experienced drag racer, I am sure this is a low 12 car and a few more mph in the trap.
 
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With regular lanuch. that's very good time.
 
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Road and Track posted 12.3 @114.8 1/4 mile which is supposedly faster than a GT3 and a TT.
 
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when you say regular launch, did you just take off as if from a stop light or rev your RPM to certain point (if so, what RPM?).
Nice job by the way. awesome numbers.
 
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damn 12.9 is quick! i do drags in my other car and I run about a 12.4 with it and my 997 doesn't feel anywhere close to it...
 
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i won't be surprised if the 997S is faster than the TT or GT3 due to the higher displacement and less wheel hops in a launch... and 12.3 sounds reasonable
 
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NIce time.
 
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Originally posted by 6088TTS
i won't be surprised if the 997S is faster than the TT or GT3 due to the higher displacement...
Displacement?

I think it's power that determines quarter mile times.

Someone needs to line up a 997S against a stock 996 Turbo and do a rolling start to see what happens.
 
Old Sep 25, 2005 | 01:17 AM
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damn 12.9 is quick! i do drags in my other car and I run about a 12.4 with it and my 997 doesn't feel anywhere close to it...
Is your 997 a cabrio? The cabrio is heavier then the coupe.
 
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Displacement?

I think it's power that determines quarter mile times.

Someone needs to line up a 997S against a stock 996 Turbo and do a rolling start to see what happens.
That is exactly what I am thinking. Considering that the 997 (non S) is roughly equivalent in performance to the 02 and newer 996, I don't see how 35 additional horsepower on the S can make it quicker than a GT3 or a TT. It just doesn't make sense. As far as seat of the pants feel, the TT feels much quicker. Of course there is the increased sensation of acceleration from forced induction but still. I can't see a 997S pulling a TT in the quarter like R&Ts numbers show. In fact, R&Ts numbers show that the 997S has the same 1/4 mile time as a Gallardo and is .1 sec faster 0-60. I just don't see it happening.

I'm sure that the numbers weren't made up but I bet the conditions were very different when each car was tested. It must have been awfully cold and the track must have been awfully sticky for a 12.3 quarter mile with a 997S.
 
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Originally posted by Dock (Atlanta)
Displacement?

I think it's power that determines quarter mile times.

Someone needs to line up a 997S against a stock 996 Turbo and do a rolling start to see what happens.
good scenerio idea!!! actually i thought about that before you... and last week me and my friend just did that... and guess what on a rolling from 5-10mph (which gives handicap to the Turbo) and on an up hill 1-2-3 gear my 997S PULLED the TT by an car length... until the end of 3rd and begining of 4th on an uphill the TT started pulling... but i said it wasn't a fair race due to uphill and a 5-10mph rolling start which gives the TT a much advantage due to less turbo lag and more torqe... me and my friend is going to try again before he sells his car... on an flat road and from 0mph... with out launching just rolling i won't be surprised that the 997S pulls more than 2 car length in the first 3 gears which is to about 110mph... and that is the average trap speed of both cars... lets see what happens then... then i will keep you guys updated...
 
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Originally posted by 6088TTS
i won't be surprised if the 997S is faster than the TT or GT3 due to the higher displacement and less wheel hops in a launch... and 12.3 sounds reasonable
911 Turbo is AWD it will out launch a RWD car any day, unless the RWD has slicks and alot of torque.
 
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Originally posted by 6088TTS
... on a rolling from 5-10mph (which gives handicap to the Turbo) and on an up hill 1-2-3 gear my 997S PULLED the TT by an car length...
I believe you, but something's not right about that (set up or driver technique, etc.).

Try a 2nd gear start at 40 mph.
 
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Originally posted by Dock (Atlanta)
I believe you, but something's not right about that (set up or driver technique, etc.).

Try a 2nd gear start at 40 mph.
That defeats the purpose of this whole discussion. At max boost and peak torque, of course the TT will pull the 997S, how could it not? I think though, the point is to do a 1/4 mile from a standstill with drivers of roughly the same weight. Don't stuff a 300lb man into the TT and then put some little guy in the S. Even a 100-150lb discrepancy will make a big difference as evidenced from the coupe vs cab numbers. Once you do things like rolling starts or 2nd gear @ 40, you are then favoring one car over the other.
 
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Originally posted by DancingBenzos
911 Turbo is AWD it will out launch a RWD car any day, unless the RWD has slicks and alot of torque.
you should never race a AWD car with a RWD car with launching... that is simply just not fair... if you want to do it that way than any moded 400whp STi or EVO will take your TTs and ENZOs for a spin to the 60mph or even 100mph mark... won't that be a fun race... but back to the point... i am going to try a 0mph rolling start with my friend... WITHOUT LAUNCHING!!! all the way to top speed hopefully...
 


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