Floppy Stick
#1
Floppy Stick
Help, I have a floppy stick. While trying so hard to get to first I heard something snap and although everything works fine, my stick is just sloppy....
OK joking aside I apparently broke a piece of plastic loose...anyone know what its called and where I can get a new one....it seems pretty easy to fix (take off is bolsters and remove boot trim). In the link below its the round white plastic piece in from of the shift lever, just to the right of the up arrow.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...tall/pic10.jpg
OK joking aside I apparently broke a piece of plastic loose...anyone know what its called and where I can get a new one....it seems pretty easy to fix (take off is bolsters and remove boot trim). In the link below its the round white plastic piece in from of the shift lever, just to the right of the up arrow.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...tall/pic10.jpg
#2
Not sure on getting parts for that...BUT, if you want to upgrade, I can highly suggest the 997.2 GT3 shifter. REALLY improves shifter feel and you won't be breaking parts.
http://sonnenporscheoemparts.com/par...catalogID=9886
Sonnen has a great price for it too.
http://sonnenporscheoemparts.com/par...catalogID=9886
Sonnen has a great price for it too.
#3
I'm with Wheeler, although I'd suggest almost any quality short shift kit. Mine is a Schnell, and it feels like a rifle bolt. It was my first mod, and one of my favorites. It's much more precise and satisfying than the broomstick that comes from the factory. The SSKs are about $200 plus an hour or two of labor. A broken or worn part is always a mixed blessing. It's a pain to deal with, but a great excuse for an upgrade.
Oh, and a Viagra. (What?!! I was supposed to let that one go just because it was too easy?)
Oh, and a Viagra. (What?!! I was supposed to let that one go just because it was too easy?)
#4
The white part doesn't appear to be sold separately. See #1 in this diagram: http://www.jimellisporscheparts.com/...ssembly=477623
The second one listed with code IXCZ is the factory short shifter.
The second one listed with code IXCZ is the factory short shifter.
#5
Thanks all! It is a good excuse for an upgrade and frankly it makes sense since I'll have to replace the entire thing. Stiffening it up will help me get to 3rd base, I mean gear. Thanks for the recommendations.
I took the boot apart and was able to get the piece back in, but it's only a matter of time as some of the teeth that hold it in broke.
I took the boot apart and was able to get the piece back in, but it's only a matter of time as some of the teeth that hold it in broke.
#6
I'm with Wheeler, although I'd suggest almost any quality short shift kit. Mine is a Schnell, and it feels like a rifle bolt. It was my first mod, and one of my favorites. It's much more precise and satisfying than the broomstick that comes from the factory. The SSKs are about $200 plus an hour or two of labor. A broken or worn part is always a mixed blessing. It's a pain to deal with, but a great excuse for an upgrade.
Oh, and a Viagra. (What?!! I was supposed to let that one go just because it was too easy?)
Oh, and a Viagra. (What?!! I was supposed to let that one go just because it was too easy?)
#7
I have driven both. Honestly, I can't tell the difference between OEM and the Schnell. They're both a world of difference from non-SSK. I believe the OEM SSK is what's in the GT3, though I'm not certain. I drove it in another 997.1 S, which is also what mine is. Apples to apples!
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#8
OEM Porsche SSK here... Can't drive a MT w/o one. While I was swapping it out, I also removed the $hitty stock cables, and fit the Numeric race cables which are marvelous!
The stock shifters in these things seem to be worse than even any VAG car.
The stock shifters in these things seem to be worse than even any VAG car.
#10
The OEM 997.2 GT3 shifter is not a "short" shifter (this is what I have). This shifter DOES however have the metal bushings (including the one the OP broke with the plastic version. The OEM SSK has plastic bushings...but it's a shorter throw. The OEM stock 997.2 shifter also has some spring/buffers you can see where the cables connect that make it a little more numb.
The feel of the shift was MUCH better as soon as I got in. It is not, however, "rifle bolt" like some describe. The magic there happens with Cup Cables...again they don't have the springs/buffers like the stock 997.2 cables have. I have NOT done this upgrade yet as I didn't understand how cables could make such a difference, then a mechanic explained about the springs other stuff on the stock ones put there for a more sanitary street experience. Anyway, the only "rifle bolt" shifter I've felt is in a .2 GT3 RS...that is NUTS!! Like metal on metal accurate...like a Remington 700. All that said, in a world of $800 carbon fiber air vents and other stupid crap, $400 for a shifter is a real upgrade you can feel and will make driving that much more fun. I've done the shifter, had my steering wheel done and new pedals...all worthy upgrades you use EVERY time you're in the car. I will certainly do the Cup Cables at some point to go to the next level...and maybe a Numeric shifter unit. There is a lot of joy in confidently throwing that lever where you want! :-)
The feel of the shift was MUCH better as soon as I got in. It is not, however, "rifle bolt" like some describe. The magic there happens with Cup Cables...again they don't have the springs/buffers like the stock 997.2 cables have. I have NOT done this upgrade yet as I didn't understand how cables could make such a difference, then a mechanic explained about the springs other stuff on the stock ones put there for a more sanitary street experience. Anyway, the only "rifle bolt" shifter I've felt is in a .2 GT3 RS...that is NUTS!! Like metal on metal accurate...like a Remington 700. All that said, in a world of $800 carbon fiber air vents and other stupid crap, $400 for a shifter is a real upgrade you can feel and will make driving that much more fun. I've done the shifter, had my steering wheel done and new pedals...all worthy upgrades you use EVERY time you're in the car. I will certainly do the Cup Cables at some point to go to the next level...and maybe a Numeric shifter unit. There is a lot of joy in confidently throwing that lever where you want! :-)
Last edited by Wheeler; 11-26-2014 at 07:03 AM.
#11
I have no noticeable noise changes from stock to Numeric. Shifting is direct feeling....crisp.
vibration is zero. I do mods typically only 1 at a time, as I like to zone in at pro/cons of each individual mod...that being said, I di, however, install the OEM short shifter with the numeric all metal race cables. The OEM SSK is all the same plastic bushings/components,etc, except for the throw length, so it became practical to do both at same time long as im in there.
Bottom line... you wont feel/hear any difference if you go to the above setup. Metal numeric shifter to their cables will be a different story.
#12
Although it's too late for any "while I'm in there" upgrades, I'm still fuzzy on how the cables impact the shifting. Can anyone expound a little? I've been very pleased with my Schnell SSKS, but now I feel like I may have been missing something!
#13
The OEM 997.2 GT3 shifter is not a "short" shifter (this is what I have). This shifter DOES however have the metal bushings (including the one the OP broke with the plastic version. The OEM SSK has plastic bushings...but it's a shorter throw. The OEM stock 997.2 shifter also has some spring/buffers you can see where the cables connect that make it a little more numb.
The feel of the shift was MUCH better as soon as I got in. It is not, however, "rifle bolt" like some describe. The magic there happens with Cup Cables...again they don't have the springs/buffers like the stock 997.2 cables have. I have NOT done this upgrade yet as I didn't understand how cables could make such a difference, then a mechanic explained about the springs other stuff on the stock ones put there for a more sanitary street experience. Anyway, the only "rifle bolt" shifter I've felt is in a .2 GT3 RS...that is NUTS!! Like metal on metal accurate...like a Remington 700. All that said, in a world of $800 carbon fiber air vents and other stupid crap, $400 for a shifter is a real upgrade you can feel and will make driving that much more fun. I've done the shifter, had my steering wheel done and new pedals...all worthy upgrades you use EVERY time you're in the car. I will certainly do the Cup Cables at some point to go to the next level...and maybe a Numeric shifter unit. There is a lot of joy in confidently throwing that lever where you want! :-)
The feel of the shift was MUCH better as soon as I got in. It is not, however, "rifle bolt" like some describe. The magic there happens with Cup Cables...again they don't have the springs/buffers like the stock 997.2 cables have. I have NOT done this upgrade yet as I didn't understand how cables could make such a difference, then a mechanic explained about the springs other stuff on the stock ones put there for a more sanitary street experience. Anyway, the only "rifle bolt" shifter I've felt is in a .2 GT3 RS...that is NUTS!! Like metal on metal accurate...like a Remington 700. All that said, in a world of $800 carbon fiber air vents and other stupid crap, $400 for a shifter is a real upgrade you can feel and will make driving that much more fun. I've done the shifter, had my steering wheel done and new pedals...all worthy upgrades you use EVERY time you're in the car. I will certainly do the Cup Cables at some point to go to the next level...and maybe a Numeric shifter unit. There is a lot of joy in confidently throwing that lever where you want! :-)
I actually just had my shifter cables replaced under CPO warranty 10 months ago when they failed, but I'm wondering if I just rip these out now and pop in the Numeric cables when my indy installs the SSK ..... what do you guys think??
#14
The OEM 997.2 GT3 shifter is not a "short" shifter (this is what I have). This shifter DOES however have the metal bushings (including the one the OP broke with the plastic version. The OEM SSK has plastic bushings...but it's a shorter throw. The OEM stock 997.2 shifter also has some spring/buffers you can see where the cables connect that make it a little more numb. The feel of the shift was MUCH better as soon as I got in. It is not, however, "rifle bolt" like some describe. The magic there happens with Cup Cables...again they don't have the springs/buffers like the stock 997.2 cables have. I have NOT done this upgrade yet as I didn't understand how cables could make such a difference, then a mechanic explained about the springs other stuff on the stock ones put there for a more sanitary street experience. Anyway, the only "rifle bolt" shifter I've felt is in a .2 GT3 RS...that is NUTS!! Like metal on metal accurate...like a Remington 700. All that said, in a world of $800 carbon fiber air vents and other stupid crap, $400 for a shifter is a real upgrade you can feel and will make driving that much more fun. I've done the shifter, had my steering wheel done and new pedals...all worthy upgrades you use EVERY time you're in the car. I will certainly do the Cup Cables at some point to go to the next level...and maybe a Numeric shifter unit. There is a lot of joy in confidently throwing that lever where you want! :-)
Will the .2 GT3 RS fit a .1? You are right, for the money I am not sure you can make a better upgrade.
#15
any shifter that has a plastic housing is just junk. if you want a shifter thats adjustable, rifle bolt shifting and all aluminum housing look at the numeric. not cheap but its the last shifter you will ever buy for your porsche. there is ZERO side flex with this shifter.
Last edited by 32krazy!; 11-29-2014 at 10:29 AM.