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Old Apr 4, 2015 | 09:03 PM
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Carbon quality/ comparisons

Anyone have any comments or experience with the differences between MAcarbon and DB carbon?
MA carbon seems about 50% pricier... Are they better quality?
Also, has anyone changed the pcm / temp controls faceplates to carbon or other colored plastic?
That dull grey seems a little boring, but maybe we just have to live with it.
 

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I don't have any MAcarbon parts on my car but I have a mixed of OEM and DB carbon from a group buy many years ago. DB carbon makes quality parts, I can't tell the OEM from the aftermarket parts.
 
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On painted PCM stuff, yeah, we do that. Carbon? I know the stuff from MA, and it's top shelf. I have not had any experience with the other.

Here's some of our PCM work:





It's some work to dismantle those sections, but not rocket science. Email us anytime.

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Originally Posted by carsnob
Anyone have any comments or experience with the differences between MAcarbon and DB carbon? MA carbon seems about 50% pricier... Are they better quality? Also, has anyone changed the pcm / temp controls faceplates to carbon or other colored plastic? That dull grey seems a little boring, but maybe we just have to live with it.
I don't have any DB carbon parts, but I recently bought a carbon fiber gear shift insert from MACarbon, and my experience with them was excellent. John Borchelt is a top-class guy, and went above and beyond to sort out my new insert. Not only did he provide some custom leather bead work for a super-smooth fit between the aluminum and carbon fiber, but he also totally buffed out the shift cap and my slightly distressed shift lever, all pro-bono!

All in, the MACarbon guys were excellent, and their product is absolutely first rate! I'd be happy to post a pic of their finished product installed in my 2010 C4S Cab MT if anyone is interested.....
 
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I've found the quality to be comparable, but in all cases better than OEM.

MA service is excellent, DB has wider assortment of parts in CF for our cars.
 
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I've purchased parts from DB Carbon, and found them to be:
1: Excellent in appearance and, from my early experience, well made.
2. Superb communication---Daniel is very prompt in response.
3. Great value.

Not trashing any of the other purveyors, but I've been most impressed.
Just one amateur's opinion.
 
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I don't have any DB carbon parts, but I recently bought a carbon fiber gear shift insert from MACarbon, and my experience with them was excellent. John Borchelt is a top-class guy, and went above and beyond to sort out my new insert. Not only did he provide some custom leather bead work for a super-smooth fit between the aluminum and carbon fiber, but he also totally buffed out the shift cap and my slightly distressed shift lever, all pro-bono!

All in, the MACarbon guys were excellent, and their product is absolutely first rate! I'd be happy to post a pic of their finished product installed in my 2010 C4S Cab MT if anyone is interested.....
Sure post the pic of your carbon mods... In fact let's see what others have done...anyone else want to show us??
 
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I've found the quality to be comparable, but in all cases better than OEM.
 
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Nice work BumperPlugs - here´s the carbon version we manufacture, we deliver front plates ready installed for easy exchange..:



To carsnob: Please feel free to ask for detailed installation overview or any other questions. It´s like Eric said, a bit work but not too hard..

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I've bought both MA and DB.

I doubt very much if you'll find better than the quality of MA
John is also a great guy to deal with.
 
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Here's my step by step with pictures of taking apart the whole PCM stack for painting or replacing with carbon pieces. Not that hard to do, just be patient and stay organized.

http://rennlist.com/forums/997-curre...e-removal.html
 
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MaCarbon and DbCarbon are both top notch. Have a ton of stuff from both of them.



 
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When I got my 360 Spider, the guys at MA Carbon used it to make the molds for their 360 parts. They came up to Algar Ferrari I think a few times, and they used to use my old car for pictures (I'm sure they probably have better quality photos by now)of the 360 parts. The product (now this was over 10 years ago) was amazing and I have bought from other sources, and even the stuff Lamborghini made was not where near as good. If I wanted CF pieces I'd be calling them.
 
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John and his team at Macarbon are top notch with their products, customizations, and all things carbon fiber (custom tailored to your car part) if it's not a common piece they make, etc. their customer service and dedication is unrivaled.

I'm fortunate that they are local and had the chance to have them work on my car and witness first hand their craftsmanship..

DB product are well made and the annual group buy discounts they offer are nice as well.


Due to their location and customer service with installs in my personal experience , I'd go Macarbon given the choice YMMV since I not much of a
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