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Old Oct 21, 2015 | 05:51 PM
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Removing calipers

Seen as how sexy yellow calipers are against midnight blue paint Im going for it. Going to send them away to be powder coated.


Removing calipers, I want to do it myself so I think Its just some obvious bolts here and there, use a flathead screwdriver to push the pads out?


Then the brake fluid line, how is this removed and what do you do to stop air getting in or brake fluid gushing out?


Also the wire sensor looks delicate, any advice on exactly how this is removed?


And do you have to apply brake piston paste to the pistons when putting back in? If so do you just smear it all over with your finger?


There aren't any clear and concise DIY on this, I've already looked, still leaves some questions to the whole process.


Oh and if anyone knows the torque settings for the caliper bolts that'd help too!


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Old Oct 21, 2015 | 06:54 PM
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I think it will look great if you have it professionally done.

Some advice from experience, do not bleed the system leave fluid in it.

I did this on another car and the the paint took longer than expected and the seals dried out.

It was a Nightmare to deal with. Ended up getting a new ABS pump and brake master cylinder all under warranty tho or it would have been $4k
 
Old Oct 21, 2015 | 06:55 PM
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Thanks, Im replacing all the seals when the calipers come back, and once reinstalled I will then bleed the system.
 
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Start with normal pad change steps - jack car, remove wheel, then pads. Next disconnect the brake line at the caliper. Wrap a plastic bag around the end of the brake line a couple of times to seal it up and use a rubber band to hold it tight to prevent drips. Leave the fluid in the lines and in the car.

The calipers themselves have two bolts, both larger Torx head bolts. Easy enough to remove with the right Torx socket and ratchet or breaker bar. Once you have the calipers off, drain the fluid from the calipers and send them out for powder coating. I like to put an extra bleed screw in the hole where the brake line connected to prevent any residual brake fluid from spilling all over the calipers.

Reinstallation is the reverse, attach all calipers, brake lines and pads. Now you need to bleed the entire system just like when you change brake fluid. It's really not that difficult, search for brake fluid change DIY's. Just be careful not to spill brake fluid on painted surfaces and only bleed when all calipers and pads are reinstalled.
 
Old Oct 21, 2015 | 09:42 PM
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Thanks, so you remove pads prior to removing the caliper? Don't you need to clamp the brake lines? wouldn't the pressure keep pouring out the fluid into the plastic bag?


Also not sure about the sensors, torque settings & application of piston cylinder grease.
 
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caliper bolt torque spec @ 85 Nm or 63 ft/lb

http://rennlist.com/how-tos/a/porsch...alipers-377873

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...e-replace.html
 

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Old Oct 21, 2015 | 11:17 PM
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Thanks! I'm still researching on the prep of the calipers, I'm hesitant to get them sandblasted as I don't trust the shop the ensure the piston valves and rim don't get scratched or you can get brake fluid leaking. Might just have to sand them by hand... would I have to sand it down to bare metal or should a decent scuffing suffice??


I also just read that powder coating can't match speed yellow and also won't hold up against extreme heat. Apparently this G2 paint system (http://www.g2usa.com/) works best and they can match Porsche's speed yellow. Which means I have to paint them myself.


I've also read that you need compressed air to get the piston cylinders out... maybe I can just mask up over them... gosh this is turning out to be a bigger job than I anticipated!!
 
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Originally Posted by no1joey
Thanks! I'm still researching on the prep of the calipers, I'm hesitant to get them sandblasted as I don't trust the shop.

Might just have to sand them by hand... would I have to sand it down to bare metal or should a decent scuffing suffice??


I also just read that powder coating can't match speed yellow and also won't hold up against extreme heat. Apparently this G2 paint system (http://www.g2usa.com/) works best and they can match Porsche's speed yellow. Which means I have to paint them myself.


I've also read that you need compressed air to get the piston cylinders out... maybe I can just mask up over them... gosh this is turning out to be a bigger job than I anticipated!!
No automotive paint will beat powder coating strength plain and simple.The place you're gonna use to powder them should be the ones sand blasting them, it's part of the job order. ALL of the current paint has to come off to get them powder coated. And yes you need air to get the Pistons out.

Check out my build log page 3

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...911-c2s-3.html

I show a good bit on coating calipers.
 
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I've heard powder coating fails at 250c. Whilst the G2 system is an epoxy which is superior. I've read articles on here and rennlist where ppl who had tracked their powder coated calipers saw them darkening i.e getting burnt. I don't really track my car anyway so it's not so much of an issue, but Id like to know If I decided to the paint will hold up. Apparently brembo also warn against powder coating their calipers? just what I've read.. thanks for the DIY by the way on removing the calipers...


Anyway, powder coating can't match speed yellow so it's out of the question, I want oem looking calipers. You can order yellow calipers from factory without carbon ceramic discs.


So I guess G2 is my only option, I will have to clear over the decal stickers with high temp clear, that won't hold up against chemicals such as caliper cleaner, however I never use that stuff, I only use suds and water on my wheels, same as I use on the paint.


I'm happy to paint them myself with G2 as long as scuffing the paint with sand paper is good enough prep. Obviously I don't want to have to re do it again in a year, maybe I can sand it down to bare metal by hand? wonder how long that would take...anyone know anyone that has just scuffed the calipers for prep? Does it hold up?
 

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I think it will look great if you have it professionally done.
 
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I know its a Carrera GT but you get the idea, midnight blue and speed yellow is a match made in heaven ...





So I think I'm set on the epoxy G2 kit from G2 usa, just have to research prep now..
 

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Do you need to use brake pad grease if removing the brake pads and then putting back on?
 
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I've heard powder coating fails at 250c. Whilst the G2 system is an epoxy which is superior. I've read articles on here and rennlist where ppl who had tracked their powder coated calipers saw them darkening i.e getting burnt. I don't really track my car anyway so it's not so much of an issue, but Id like to know If I decided to the paint will hold up. Apparently brembo also warn against powder coating their calipers? just what I've read.. thanks for the DIY by the way on removing the calipers...


Anyway, powder coating can't match speed yellow so it's out of the question, I want oem looking calipers. You can order yellow calipers from factory without carbon ceramic discs.


So I guess G2 is my only option, I will have to clear over the decal stickers with high temp clear, that won't hold up against chemicals such as caliper cleaner, however I never use that stuff, I only use suds and water on my wheels, same as I use on the paint.


I'm happy to paint them myself with G2 as long as scuffing the paint with sand paper is good enough prep. Obviously I don't want to have to re do it again in a year, maybe I can sand it down to bare metal by hand? wonder how long that would take...anyone know anyone that has just scuffed the calipers for prep? Does it hold up?
Did you read anything I posted? My post was based on facts first hand not on things "I heard" on the Internet. I've done over 30 sets of various calipers and no way any kind of paint can compare.And there is A LOT of yellow powders which I'm sure one matches speed yellow.

Good luck on your brakes.
 
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https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...se-needed.html

Anyway, I want it in speed yellow, so powder coating option is off the table.


I've ordered an air compressor and plan on replacing the o rings and dust boots while I have the calipers off, I know I have to add brake caliper grease to the o ring seals when replacing, just not sure if I had to add any brake PAD grease to the back of the brake pads...
 

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Here's what my 2009 997.2 C2 looks like with yellow calipers. I have mixed feelings about their color but since I bought it that way and I'm more focused on other "upgrades", they'll stay for now.



 


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