ROFLMAO !!!!!!!! Dude, you crack me up ! You deal in FACTS but this forum has NEVER seen one of your alleged "timeslips" or VIDEO ??? Wouldn't you want to SHARE such a major achievement as getting a lowely3.4L EVO SC'ed 911 to outperform their latest 997 3.6L*. (12.1@119)

---Kevin

 

post it, post it! where's the link. was it posted on rennlist?

 

is awe's claim a max gain somewhere in the rpm range, or peak HP? i'm not buying a peak HP gain of that much, especially on an NA car. i'd have to see an independent customers dyno before i bought into that claim.

man, this thread is all over the place

1999: post that slip dude. i think you may have some sort of record on here. that would be one hella fast 3.4 liter.

 

1999 , no need to be so cryptic. Not meaning to be contentious at all here, really; I've probably read 100 or more of your posts on Rennlist, but never came across your dyno/time sheets, I would love to check it out- just out of curiosity, cuz I appreciate the original 996's 3.4L 296hp mill. Don't hog all the glory.

What other engine internals did you have to change over to end up with this level of performance? Assuming a proper qualified installation, any guesstimate on lifespan of an engine so equipped?

 

wow 121 trap speed is very impressive. was this done on street tires / street weight? because 11.58 is a very very quick ET, and while 121 is definitely a strong trap speed, the ET seems to be a little quicker than i would expect for that corresponding trap speed, given the nature of powerband of 1) the 3.4L engine in general not being a torque monster, 2) the powerband of your centrifugally supercharged motor. i'm not saying that it's impossible, but given the powerband of a centrifugally supercharged 911, if i had to guess i would bet on a high trap speed for that ET or a bit slower ET.

 

Going to have to second this, very valid point.

Not trying to doubt the guy but if you say you have a slip then post the damn slip, what is the problem? Until you do you can say your car runs 10.5 @ 140 mph for all its worth.

 

Then what harm is there in posting the slip and letting everyone come to their own conclusions?

I don't know how a 3.4 liter car could outperform the evo 3.6 liter car.

 

The dyno is on awe's site and awe posted it on here as well. They gained a buttload of torque through the powerband and the 40 was peak of course.

The main gains came from the cats, not the headers or mufflers.

 

I think for the reasons you stated we will have to take his word and we will not be seeing a slip

 

you guys are ruthless!

But, I do not want this to become a "my ***** is bigger than thou's" thread. Those usually just end up upsetting people.

The Evo kit is undoubtedly good as well, or they would not have the customer base that they do. So i really don't want to continue to compare the two kits, especially since we are both sponsors of the same board!

With that said, buy our kit!!!

 

Sticky we sell and install the kit and it is a great system but AWE claims 38HP crank power WITH the GIAC flash.. Just an FYI

 

According to their dyno it is 34 rwhp (rounded):



That would be more than 38 at the crank, just an FYI

 

i went to the site. you are correct about their "claims". as you said previously, looks like 80 percent of the gains are via the cat bypasses. this would be truly impressive if it's true. i'd still like to see an indepent test on a customer's car as we all know manufacturer's claims tend to be on the, shall we say, optimistic side with the exception of RUF of course who does the complete opposite.

 

Its fast too

 

i'm not comparing the kit to evo. i just want to see the dyno plots.