Hi Everyone,
We are thinking about Supercharging a few cars. We had some major questions and would love your insightful feedback.


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1. The "Winding noise" how bad is it? Can you really hear inside/outside?
( We have heard mixed signals regarding the noise )

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2. The excitment vs. a 997TT (stock) if you drove both?

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3. The overall dependability of it

Finally, Have you had a MAJOR issues mechanically since you have installed one and please explain.

THANKS so much. We are possibly looking at a group install/sale in LI/NYC area, finalizing final quotes, install number & warranty impact. STAY TUNED

Pink

 

I can't speak to a 997 Supercharged but I suspect there is little to no difference between the 996 SC of which I am very familliar.

There are many threads in this forum that address Supercharging. I suggest you look there for more detailed info but here is some basic info.

A centrifugal blower such as you will find on the Evo kit has less whine than a Roots or screw type blower you will find on a TPC kit. The power in a Roots blower is more immediate but not necessarily greater. I favor the the power and sound characteriscis of the Evo blower. I have driven both extensively and own an Evo.

In my SC 996 I can easily take a stock TT and hold my own against an X50.

Reliability has not been an issue for me or anyone I have heard of. I have 18,000 miles on my set-up and with the exception of some oil blow-by under very hard driving, (one time) I have had zero issues.

On the whole, Superchargers are more reliable than Turbochargers. This is the result of system complexity. Superchargers are much less complicated. The bottom line is you need a good install and be prepared to let your warranty expire. Good luck. I don't think you will be disappointed. I love mine.

 

Thank you for all your time, I did search a few topics on this forum but was left a bit confused. This is why I decided to start a new thread for 997 Superchargers.

Do you hear the wind noise from outside?

 

I have a vortech unit on my Honda S2000 (the same company evoms/vf-engineering uses). I don't know if it's the exact same blower unit, but I know mine makes the whinning nosie a little. I've never had a supercharged car or heard one prior to this, and I never once thought, man that whine is annoying. For me, it's part of the experience! It's more noticable at idle and can hear it more so from the outside than from in.

 

Have the Ruf R Kompressor conversion:

1) No compressor noise at all inside or outside. Slightly louder exhaust note since the kit includes 100 cell cats.
2) Haven't driven a TT to compare but those that have say the compressor is more linear and that the TT really kick's in once it gets going.
3) 1,400 miles so far and no problems.

 

I have a 997S with an EVO supercharger and full Fabspeed exhaust system. I would say that I rarely hear the supercharger except at idle on very cold days, and even then it isn't an unpleasant or annoying sound. The Fabspeed system is fairly loud as exhaust systems go, butunless your standing right behind the car with the bonnet up, you won't notice much.

I haven't driven a 997tt, but will tell you that the supercharged 997S is a totally different experience than the stock 997S. This car is seriously fast and my guess is that in certain circumstances, it will run with the new turbo. With less low end torque than the turbo, it makes its power in a very linear way...it just keeps on pulling as the revs build until you look down and realize that you way into triple digits. In the first three gears, hang on, beyond that your way over the legal limit. There is no turbo lag, obviously, and its a very streetable power delivery. There were some issues with programming early on that caused the engine to stall as the revs dropped, but that has all been engineered out.

Mine has been very reliable with about 2500 miles on the install. Fewer CEL's (none really) than just the airbox, exhaust and chip remap I did first. If you don't count tires and brake pads, which you're going to consume at a more frequent clip, I don't anticipate other issues. There is a lot of experience with the 996 kits which have held up very well over many miles.

THE most important factor here is who does the install. The EVO kit is very well thought out, but the new cars are a lot different than the 996's and I highly recommend that if you go this route, you have the work done by someone with experience installing the 997 kit. Imagine Auto did my install and does all my maintenance (I'm lucky to live close by) and if I wasn't close to someone with their level of experience, I'd ship the car to them to do.

A 997tt is pushing $150k out the door. I have a lot less invested and am getting performance that is pretty close (at least to a stock tt). Its a blast to drive, that's for sure.

Hope that helps

 

I have a 2006 997S with the Evo kit, Fabspeed exhaust and headers, stock cats, and carbon fiber mirrors. While the SC is nice, the weight reduction from the mirrors makes a HUGE difference...

OK, enough tongue in cheek. I live in a very humid area, coastal NC. The kit whines a good bit on cold days when it's first started... maybe for 5 minutes. I like it too. Sounds really cool. Other than that, I hear it on a level of maybe 2. I've had some people ride with me and say that they hear it. I don't really though. I have 13k miles on the car SINCE the install. It's been great. As 58Speedster said, there were some initial things on the early kits, which were, I believe, magnified in my humid climate. But Evo has been great and they are waiting on me to have a chance to take it back to have the final tweak that everyone else probably already has. I've just been out of pocket so much lately. Anyways, it's incredible. I love it. BIG power. With as many miles on it as I have, sometimes I forget how fast it is. Then, I get in a race with something that's really fast, and win very decisively. Then I'm like, "Man, my car hauls ***!" It's a great feeling. Worth the money. With my Cargraphic full kit, Avus 20s, and a few other things and I'm probably kicking around $140k in the car. I just didn't want all wheel drive. My last car I built was an S4 and I didn't want to go down that road again.

Hope this helps you. Do it.

 

hellow mr pink im also thinking about a sc,i was courious as to where you were planning on getting it done?by the way i was not aware of the time on the 31st i wish i would have made it,as im in ny also.look foward to next meet.

 

Tks for all the great feedback. I am working with a few options at this point. PM I can fill you in.

 

Great write-up!! Is it the supercharger you hear at idle? On the Ruf setup, the supercharger doesn't engage until over 1,200 rpms. I don't know much about the EVO - does it have a centrifugal clutch like Ruf or is it electric?

 

The EVO uses a belt driven Vortech centrifugal supercharger that is turning as soon as the crank starts turning, so yes you are hearing the supercharger at idle.

 

Here is a sound bite of the TPC kits we do on the 996 and 997. Sound will be the same, performance is amazing. The 997 makes about 130WHP over stock!

http://www.myvividracing.com/showthread.php?t=20391

Hit me up with any questions via PM or email about the driveability, sound, and functioning.

Thanks!

 

Listen to the masses and go EVO on this over TPC, many on the board have SC'd with EVO and all have had great results so good luck and keep us posted please!

 

Guys does Evo kit have that horrible whine like the TPC video above?

 

sorry the mic was placed in the engine bay so it is more noticeable.