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#16
05-05-2010, 10:15 AM
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I read your first post then a couple of others and decided to post. The reason being your comment regarding "will the ZR1 keep your interest in a year". You just sold a 2010 GTR that did not hold your attention. Have you ever owned a vette period would be my first question. They are great cars but get slammed by first time owners because they do not have all the refinements that European cars have. And that is exactly the point. You can by a porsche at the same price with a nice interior but the vette will out perform it. Why? Because Chevy does not put the money into the interiors and creature comforts. They put it into performance. To equal or exceed the Corvette performance level, one would have to spend a whole lot more just to keep the nice interior. The real question to me is why doesn't everyone else offer a stripped down version of their car instead of Chevy having to add comfort which will move the price up. So why did you give up the other two cars? There was something that did not hold your interest and I suspect it was more than reliabilty concerns with the GTR. Maybe the ZR1 wouldn't hold your interest either as just a daily street car. There are far better options out there if that is all you plan to use it for and not just bragging rights.
#17
05-05-2010, 11:32 AM
I think that the ZR1 is a car for people like me that need to be scared in a car every so often to be kept interested. For people that sometimes include hoonery in their drive and are not bothered by things like freeway wheelspin. It has systems like Stabilitrak and PTM that can minimize the ability for it to kill you, but can be minimized if your feeling like you want to take a leap!
Its a car that can't be mastered in a short period of time like the GTR, which is almost too competent at handling its power. A 3ZR car with the leather interior is actually pretty nice on the inside, its just the seats which are designed to fit the average working class American need to be changed. I get the vibe that your a similar enthusiast to me because you owned a GT700 GT2 a car that does scare the shiz out of you from time to time!
Its a car that can't be mastered in a short period of time like the GTR, which is almost too competent at handling its power. A 3ZR car with the leather interior is actually pretty nice on the inside, its just the seats which are designed to fit the average working class American need to be changed. I get the vibe that your a similar enthusiast to me because you owned a GT700 GT2 a car that does scare the shiz out of you from time to time!
#18
05-06-2010, 09:57 AM
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Its a car that can't be mastered in a short period of time like the GTR, which is almost too competent at handling its power. A 3ZR car with the leather interior is actually pretty nice on the inside, its just the seats which are designed to fit the average working class American need to be changed. I get the vibe that your a similar enthusiast to me because you owned a GT700 GT2 a car that does scare the shiz out of you from time to time![/quote]
So true-the car has got to have an edge or it won't last in my garage. Now, if only I can figure out a way to get one of those upcoming GT2RS's
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So true-the car has got to have an edge or it won't last in my garage. Now, if only I can figure out a way to get one of those upcoming GT2RS's
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#19
05-06-2010, 11:18 AM
The vettes (all of them, and basically true with the Vipers as well) have a lot of mechanical grip, but the streering feel is very rubbery compared to the direct feel of the 911's. This is by far my biggest disapointment with these cars from a performance standpoint after owning a Porsche. I know the car will stick in a corner, but I consantly find myself second guessing the car's cornering abilty due to the indirect feel and the lack of feedback/response transmitted through the wheel. I much prefer the direct feel of the road through the wheel in an early 911...
#21
05-07-2010, 12:47 PM
I agree with the steering feel, my car is very neutral.....and I can't really use single input because a lot of times I turn in more aggressively to get an idea of available grip. But also with the Vette's if you push thru the initial turn in understeer there is oversteer right behind it 
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The Z06's had steering improvements for 2009 and they can be felt, and supposedly the ZR1 has the best and most natural steering of the cars. Its a trade off a Porsche gives you amazing steering but also has less front end grip.
.The Z06's had steering improvements for 2009 and they can be felt, and supposedly the ZR1 has the best and most natural steering of the cars. Its a trade off a Porsche gives you amazing steering but also has less front end grip.
#22
05-07-2010, 01:24 PM
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Just read that Excellence article where pro-driver J.VanOverbeek drove both ZR1 and GT2 at Infineon Raceway with the ZR1 putting out faster laps-in a Porsche enthusiast magazine no less. They were impressed with the ZR1 overall-including the handling. Might be one of the reasons we are seeing a GT2RS now-for a likely $250k though. So for <$110k, the ZR1 might be a real consideration
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#23
05-07-2010, 04:12 PM
As much as I dream about the GT2 RS for anything approaching $250k there may be a few other namely Italian...ok one German choices! I am sure a Gallardo Superleggera, Ferrari 458 Italia or Mclaren MP4 would provide me with thrills for around the same coin!
#24
05-07-2010, 05:00 PM
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. That's how the ZR1 came up. Plus, I want something I would/could drive a lot...
#25
05-07-2010, 09:16 PM
Well its time you took that next step and took it for an extended test drive. If you don't feel electricity coursing thru your veins look up at the mirror and make sure your still alive...
#26
05-07-2010, 09:29 PM
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You know how that works. We all get acclimated to the power eventually. The car has got to have the right stuff beyond that to keep me holding on. Something the GT3rs has but not so sure about the ZR1. I'm on the list for the new McLaren as a backup.
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