DD an old school muscle car?
DD an old school muscle car?
Im looking to get an older camaro or something as my daily driver. How much would I have to spend to make it reliable and to be able to be competitive on the street (drag)?
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Subscribed, I've always thought of doing this as well especially since my pops does it wtih his 69 chevelle with a little 468 in it
I love the 68-69 Camaro, I see quite a few on the road who drive 60's mustangs they have restored. There is one in my building that has a descent cam heads etc and its their daily driver.
I love the 68-69 Camaro, I see quite a few on the road who drive 60's mustangs they have restored. There is one in my building that has a descent cam heads etc and its their daily driver.
I would love to do this too, but it's much easier said than done!
If you're gonna do this, I would recommend a LSx motor swap and keep it somewhat mild for reliability. Guess much of this depends on your commute and usage needs as a DD.
If you're gonna do this, I would recommend a LSx motor swap and keep it somewhat mild for reliability. Guess much of this depends on your commute and usage needs as a DD.
I have a 67 SS/RS Camaro I DD for a while. Being a vert and a 396, it got a little taxing and expensive at the pump. Also had to be put away for the winter since it's really clean.
I agee with Flash, the way to do it would be to have a modern power train transplanted into the older car... if nothing else for the OD trans and fuel economy. Old school drivetrains can be stone reliable, but the drivability and mileage isn't on par... Another option would be to convert over to FI and OD trans... but the newer powertrain transplant would likely be cheaper, easier, and more hassle-free.
I agee with Flash, the way to do it would be to have a modern power train transplanted into the older car... if nothing else for the OD trans and fuel economy. Old school drivetrains can be stone reliable, but the drivability and mileage isn't on par... Another option would be to convert over to FI and OD trans... but the newer powertrain transplant would likely be cheaper, easier, and more hassle-free.
I have a 67 SS/RS Camaro I DD for a while. Being a vert and a 396, it got a little taxing and expensive at the pump. Also had to be put away for the winter since it's really clean.
I agee with Flash, the way to do it would be to have a modern power train transplanted into the older car... if nothing else for the OD trans and fuel economy. Old school drivetrains can be stone reliable, but the drivability and mileage isn't on par... Another option would be to convert over to FI and OD trans... but the newer powertrain transplant would likely be cheaper, easier, and more hassle-free.
I agee with Flash, the way to do it would be to have a modern power train transplanted into the older car... if nothing else for the OD trans and fuel economy. Old school drivetrains can be stone reliable, but the drivability and mileage isn't on par... Another option would be to convert over to FI and OD trans... but the newer powertrain transplant would likely be cheaper, easier, and more hassle-free.
I have a 67 SS/RS Camaro I DD for a while. Being a vert and a 396, it got a little taxing and expensive at the pump. Also had to be put away for the winter since it's really clean.
I agee with Flash, the way to do it would be to have a modern power train transplanted into the older car... if nothing else for the OD trans and fuel economy. Old school drivetrains can be stone reliable, but the drivability and mileage isn't on par... Another option would be to convert over to FI and OD trans... but the newer powertrain transplant would likely be cheaper, easier, and more hassle-free.
I agee with Flash, the way to do it would be to have a modern power train transplanted into the older car... if nothing else for the OD trans and fuel economy. Old school drivetrains can be stone reliable, but the drivability and mileage isn't on par... Another option would be to convert over to FI and OD trans... but the newer powertrain transplant would likely be cheaper, easier, and more hassle-free.
).I would like something that is classic in look, but as up to date as possible under the hood. We've been talking about a Camaro SS or Chevelle SS as a starting point with potentially an LS7 or LS9 motor. Obviously with these engines it would need a current tranny and suspension to handle the huge power. Is it possible to essentially fully swap all of a current Chev's mechanics into a classic? Thank's for any advice you all have.
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How much more can be converted in a restore-mod as far as modern upgrades? Sorry for the newbie question, but I have limited mechanical knowledge, but my father-in-law and I have been talking about doing a "fun" muscle car project (he's a licensed mechanic
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I would like something that is classic in look, but as up to date as possible under the hood. We've been talking about a Camaro SS or Chevelle SS as a starting point with potentially an LS7 or LS9 motor. Obviously with these engines it would need a current tranny and suspension to handle the huge power. Is it possible to essentially fully swap all of a current Chev's mechanics into a classic? Thank's for any advice you all have.
).I would like something that is classic in look, but as up to date as possible under the hood. We've been talking about a Camaro SS or Chevelle SS as a starting point with potentially an LS7 or LS9 motor. Obviously with these engines it would need a current tranny and suspension to handle the huge power. Is it possible to essentially fully swap all of a current Chev's mechanics into a classic? Thank's for any advice you all have.

How much more can be converted in a restore-mod as far as modern upgrades? Sorry for the newbie question, but I have limited mechanical knowledge, but my father-in-law and I have been talking about doing a "fun" muscle car project (he's a licensed mechanic
).
I would like something that is classic in look, but as up to date as possible under the hood. We've been talking about a Camaro SS or Chevelle SS as a starting point with potentially an LS7 or LS9 motor. Obviously with these engines it would need a current tranny and suspension to handle the huge power. Is it possible to essentially fully swap all of a current Chev's mechanics into a classic? Thank's for any advice you all have.
).I would like something that is classic in look, but as up to date as possible under the hood. We've been talking about a Camaro SS or Chevelle SS as a starting point with potentially an LS7 or LS9 motor. Obviously with these engines it would need a current tranny and suspension to handle the huge power. Is it possible to essentially fully swap all of a current Chev's mechanics into a classic? Thank's for any advice you all have.

I will look through my magazines after work tonight and see if I can find the article. I can picture the cover, had the magazines Green '54 Chevy project car on the cover if anyone happens to remember which mag or the issue I am talking about.
-Tim
I've DD'd old cars. It helps greatly if you know how to work on them and have a back up vehicle. If you can't do that. I don't really suggest it, unless you want to build it strong and have a mechanic check it out twice a year or so. Old parts fail, mechanics make mistakes.
How much you want to spend is a big item here. For example, you can drop significant change on a chassis from a place like the roadster shop. A Chevelle will pull something like 0.9 Gs on the skidpad, have huge bear brakes, etc. If you pair this with an LS engine, fuel injection and a 6 speed you could drive it daily, and you will have spent pretty decent coin.
Conversely, get yourself something like a 2nd generation camaro or nova with a small block chevy in it (there are millions of them and the parts are cheap), with a mild cam, headers and aftermarket fuel injection (bolts right on from places like edlebrock, etc.). Pair it with a 700R4 tranny (late model auto with overdrive) and you'll be off to a really good start, and probably only be in it for $15K
Like most things, depends on what you want to spend...
Conversely, get yourself something like a 2nd generation camaro or nova with a small block chevy in it (there are millions of them and the parts are cheap), with a mild cam, headers and aftermarket fuel injection (bolts right on from places like edlebrock, etc.). Pair it with a 700R4 tranny (late model auto with overdrive) and you'll be off to a really good start, and probably only be in it for $15K
Like most things, depends on what you want to spend...
recommend you consider, 03/04 series cobras.
these were limited edition mustangs, built by SVT at ford.
-forged internals
-6sp transmission same as in vette
-only mustang to feature IRS
the engines were hand assembled by a build team of 2 people and featured race heads, headers, factory supercharged.
came from the factory at approx 400hp (underrated) but with forged internals & race accessories easy to pull to well over 500HP at the wheels.
these cars are rock solid, and good value, usually well maintained by caring owners who have upgraded them carefully.
with the 6 sp. trans....can still cruise low rpm............my last car (575rwHP on a dyno):

these were limited edition mustangs, built by SVT at ford.
-forged internals
-6sp transmission same as in vette
-only mustang to feature IRS
the engines were hand assembled by a build team of 2 people and featured race heads, headers, factory supercharged.
came from the factory at approx 400hp (underrated) but with forged internals & race accessories easy to pull to well over 500HP at the wheels.
these cars are rock solid, and good value, usually well maintained by caring owners who have upgraded them carefully.
with the 6 sp. trans....can still cruise low rpm............my last car (575rwHP on a dyno):

I've built a couple. The aftermarket for converting classic cars to modern drivetrain/suspension/braking is HUGE. Quite a few companies sell complete conversion pieces now. Headers, engine mounts, computer systems, etc... to adapt newer LS series engines into classic cars.
With a solid rust-free body, you are looking at a ballpark of $50K to start. It is easy to spend $75-100K on these cars if you go all-out or do zero work yourself.
I built this 69 myself, back around 2003. It would cost about $75K to duplicate. Made it on the cover of Popular Hotrodding and Chevy High Performance magazine, and I did a 3,200 mile Long Haul in it for Power Tour. http://www.fquick.com/garages/Chevro...o_SS/1969/232/
Tony
With a solid rust-free body, you are looking at a ballpark of $50K to start. It is easy to spend $75-100K on these cars if you go all-out or do zero work yourself.
I built this 69 myself, back around 2003. It would cost about $75K to duplicate. Made it on the cover of Popular Hotrodding and Chevy High Performance magazine, and I did a 3,200 mile Long Haul in it for Power Tour. http://www.fquick.com/garages/Chevro...o_SS/1969/232/
Tony





