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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 10:02 PM
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Am I crazy to want a new car?

This as opposed to buying a good used tt. I know the prevailing thought is that you must be a knucklehead to pay up for that new car smell from the dealer. I am interested in a 2010 or 2011 tt or ttS. My current P car a 05 C2S was ordered and purchased new. Brand new, exactly the color and options I wanted, full warranty and arguably better service from the dealer when buying a new ordered car from them. No concerns about how the car was driven or broken in or whose DNA is on the seats. I would be interested to hear what others think about this. obviously you pay more but there are some decent discounts around.
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For me, I knew I would keep the car forever. It was worth the extra coin to buy new and know the history. If it weren't my "dream" car, or I was going to sell it in a few years, I'd buy used and save some money. Nobody knows what the future holds, but my track record for keeping cars that I love is excellent...still have my '98 Discovery that was purchased new, and I still love it like the day I bought it. Same, so far, for my '08 C2S.

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It's a "value" issue. If it's worth it to you to get a new car for what you want, do it. For me getting 95% of new for 66% of the cost was enough for me to conclude that the value equation can]me down on the side of a used 911. But hey, that's just me.
 
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In the US, you guys have a huge used market, where you can find any car with any option you are looking for.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
So I would go with used and do some mods with the rest of the $$$..
 
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In my opinion, buying the 05C2S in an excellent stepping stone into the world of high performance. Once you go for a TT you're in a whole different league.

If you are worried about history, mileage etc. why not go to the pre-owned porsche division? They still offer you an excellent warranty and have thoroughly vetted the car.

You'll find ALOT of discounts out there, but you seem to be the kinda guy that values your car and holds on to it. That's great!!! So go for a car that you feel right in the second you sit in the drivers seat. That's the best way. Don't just look at the sticker price. But that's just me.

And no! You're not crazy for wanting more performance and a new car, otherwise we'd all be nuts!!!!
 
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It all comes down to the individual and their pocketbook.

With my personality and being so **** about my cars... NEW is the only route I would take. Hell, I don't even like bringing my car in for service because I hate the thought of someone else sitting in my drivers seat.

So I only buy new unless of course I could buy a used car from myself because the car would be mint.
 
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I would always consider the same options (new vs. good used) but I always do the math equating the delta in cost of new vs. used - maintenance and finance charges included - divided by my total net worth. For many car guys, this is a small enough percentage ratio that it is easy to justify let alone if you consider how much time we spend in the seat and how truly personal and interactive this is. We all know the type of guy who's entire net worth is sitting on four wheels in front of them -where other guys worth millions can't get their head around buying a sports car let alone a new 911 TT - that is a more emotional issue and can only be justified in ones own mind. Some guys 'chase skirts', some guys booze it away, some of us simply work hard and love cars. Incidently if you limit your wives, the incremental cost of a new Turbo is academic.

Our beneficiaries won't miss the extra money after inheritance taxes anyway when we all are staring out of the proverbial pine box....my vote is that it's well worth it....although I may have to live in the back seat of my Cayenne in the interim ...
 
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You are absolutely NOT crazy to want a new car. I greatly enjoyed the entire process of speccing my car (drove dealer crazy with constant changes until it finally locked.) Porsche has so many options available to create your own special Porsche. I ended up with over 40,000.00 in factory options. Whatever you decide, you are going to love the turbo.
 
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Hi. Thanks all for the great and thoughtful responses. I am surprised how much enthusiasm to buy new. I have been watching this board though and the prices for really good used low mileage examples don't seem to be 30% less...
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It's a "value" issue. If it's worth it to you to get a new car for what you want, do it. For me getting 95% of new for 66% of the cost was enough for me to conclude that the value equation can]me down on the side of a used 911. But hey, that's just me.
I agree, but if you have 160k to spend and then drive off and have the value drop to 120k then do what suits you best.......but thats why they have carfax, and if you get it from a dealer where the car came from, it still almost like buying a new car......
 
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Carfax and CPO can't tell you how many pot holes, curbs, or other things the car has been over. Can't tell you that they had the oil changed at Jiffy Lube. Can't tell you how many times they reamed the **** out of it. Can't tell you any number of things that you would never do to your own car. Buying new with no miles erases all these thoughts...

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Hi. Thanks all for the great and thoughtful responses. I am surprised how much enthusiasm to buy new. I have been watching this board though and the prices for really good used low mileage examples don't seem to be 30% less...
Jim
If you have some extra cash,one awesome reason for buying new is...European delivery!!!
You tour and pick up your car at the factory,and afterwards you are free to enjoy it on the Autobahn
 
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Carfax and CPO can't tell you how many pot holes, curbs, or other things the car has been over. Can't tell you that they had the oil changed at Jiffy Lube. Can't tell you how many times they reamed the **** out of it. Can't tell you any number of things that you would never do to your own car. Buying new with no miles erases all these thoughts...

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Exactly. While I'm sure there are 1-2 yr old cars that are perfect and sold for legitimate reasons, why would anyone pay so much for such an incredible machine that they loved only to turn around and sell it especially back to the dealer a year or two later. I guess I would consider buying it from someone I knew who had the same philosophy about care/beak in etc.
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Carfax also can't tell you about the guy who got in an accident but didn't put in an insurance claim and paid out of pocket to have it fixed so that it couldn't be traced.
 
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No, but a paint meter can I won't buy a used one with out putting the meter on it regardless of it being CPO'd. I also run the "Watch Dog Program" to see if it's been previously modded and then returned back to stock. If it passes these tests, and I really like it, then used fine with me.
 


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