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Old Aug 6, 2012 | 11:08 AM
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My europipe experience and some thank yous

After a couple months of looking at difference exhausts and listening to a cross pattern and the europipe exhaust, I pulled the trigger on the stage 1 europipe. As noted by countless members, Stef at europipe was great to work with. Quick to respond, constantly providing updates, worked with me to get my exhaust delivered in time for a local meet. Top notch service from start to finished exhaust.

The exhaust was the standard amazing europipe top quality. I had the experts over at AMS throw it on and got some seat time to enjoy the lovely new note.

The europipe changes all aspects of the exhaust note. At idle, the stock note on my car had a moderate bass note but with a lot of metallic noises. When reved, it provided a rough throaty note but sounding like it was stuffed with sound reducing materials. Once you got on the gas, the exhaust had a singular nature that didn’t vary much. It was at times not distinguishable from the “super vacuum” sounds of the engine. It was a far cry from what I would expect from a car with a sticker price in the 6 figures.

The first exhaust I heard was a cross pattern exhaust from 911tuning on a 996 running with about 650hp. The exhaust was very refined at start up and provided a naturally aspirated sound. It was significantly better than stock providing an almost clean sound compared to the roughness I had gotten accustom to with the stock system. I had a quick ride and it was a great system that I leaning towards due to Mark’s impeccable reputation in the 996 market.

However, I heard the europipe and realized I loved the turbo sound over the gt3 like sound of the cross pattern.

With the europipe, the car’s note has been dropped at least one octave and maybe more. Small blimp of the gas under 1.5k rpms sends a rumble through the car that sounds like you’re sitting on a sleep giant. Give it more and the exhaust lets out guttural metallic yell that almost instills a sense of menace.

Once you get moving at cruising speed, the exhaust is very stock like in volume and tameness. No drone, just a nice rumble to give you an excuse to leave the radio off.

At full throttle up the rpms, the car again lets out a full guttural yell that carries to redline and finally gives this 500hp beast a voice that matches its performance and prestige.

At around 3.5k rpms and half throttle, the exhaust takes on a more exotic note that’s incredible fun to play with. I noticed that the sound is completely difference than what I hear when I go up the rpms at full throttle.

For performance, the power gains are limited as I don’t have a tune. However, the nature of the engine is definitely improved. With the reduction of back pressure from the high flow cats, the engine is much more eager to get through the rmps and gives a feel as if the car has shed some weight.

Thanks to Stef at Europipe, Mark at 911tuning.com, and Larry at AMS Performance.
 
Old Aug 6, 2012 | 11:18 AM
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Yeeeeee... Another satisfied EP client. Welcome to the better sounds of our TT.
 
Old Aug 6, 2012 | 11:36 AM
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James

EP is surely a very high quality piece and we were pleased to be a part of your upgrade

We will be talking again soon

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I can hear your exhaust after reading your post, very nice right up, enjoy!
 
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Thanks for your feedback James. We are happy that you're pleased with the new exhaust.
In my turn I'd like to thank Dennis who took the time to show you his EP1.
Remember, the higher the turbo boost at low rpm the louder the turbo whistle.

Cheers
 
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Yea, Dennis was a great help. Yea, the turbo noise is much louder now. Having driving a 335i for 4 years prior, the sound of twin turbos has become the norm for me
 
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Tried to get hold of this guy in Cincinatti who had just purchased a Europipe but couldn't make him return my emails to hear it in person.

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...innati-oh.html

The funny thing is, he himself asked around prior to his purchase but couldn't so I thought he would understand my situation and would let me hear it but boy was I wrong my worse experience ever

Can't wait to hear it in person before making the purchase.
 

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Placed the order

James, just wanted to thank you again for demoing the exhaust for me, I placed the order today and can't wait until it arrvives and get installed. I will let you know when it's done.
 
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Another happy camper. I know the feeling my friend .Stef at Europipe is a great guy.
 
Old Sep 14, 2012 | 08:39 PM
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James, just wanted to thank you again for demoing the exhaust for me, I placed the order today and can't wait until it arrvives and get installed. I will let you know when it's done.
Great to hear Glenn, it just takes one listen to sell it.
 
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Europipe installed....everything you read about this exhaust is true, starting from the mechanics admiring the system on how well it's built, to them asking if they could keep the tools, to the sound it makes when the car is first started, to the responsiveness of the car when driven at "moderate" speeds and last but not least on how good the car sounds.

My thanks again to Mithiral67 for "pushing" me off of the fence and to Stef for making a great product.
 
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OP, can you provide a video/sound recording?

Do 6speeders get a discount on the EP1?
 
Old Oct 7, 2012 | 08:45 AM
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i would love too, but honestly, most mics cant properly catch the essence of exhaust. Its why you have to hear them in person to really know.

Glenn, I am glad everything went smoothly.
 
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