997.1 TT cab exhausts system drama?
997.1 TT cab exhausts system drama?
So I pulled the trigger and bought a 2009 PORSCHE 911 TURBO CABRIOLET in AQUA BLUE METALLIC / SEA BLUE on Monday. (The car of my dreams)
The car was sold to me with the following description in the options..
THIS ONE HAS HAD THE FACTORY GIAC ECU UPGRADE
EVOLUTION MOTORSPORTS HIGH FLOW CATS
TUBI EXHAUST SYSTEM
FACTORY 997 TT LOWERING SPRINGS
In reality after taking my car into Porsche yesterday for a Tire pressure sensor and a yearly checkup they notified me that I had a “race exhausts with no CATS at all with the O2 sensors extended to avoid Check engine lights”.
It’s hard to tell but I think I have a Tubi Race Exhaust for 997TT based on what I see now vs. the pictures on SHARKWERKS site.(http://www.sharkwerks.com/products.php?pid=227)
While I live in Florida where there are no emissions checks I worry that this is a serious problem if I ever want to sell the car?
Am I overreacting to the missing CATS?
Am I the only person running no CATS on the street in states without emission testing?
I would appreciate any advice that the forum can give.
09 997.1 TT cab triple blue
12 BMW F800st
07 FZ6 - sold
98 M Roadster - sold
88 930 Turbo cab - sold
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The car was sold to me with the following description in the options..
THIS ONE HAS HAD THE FACTORY GIAC ECU UPGRADE
EVOLUTION MOTORSPORTS HIGH FLOW CATS
TUBI EXHAUST SYSTEM
FACTORY 997 TT LOWERING SPRINGS
In reality after taking my car into Porsche yesterday for a Tire pressure sensor and a yearly checkup they notified me that I had a “race exhausts with no CATS at all with the O2 sensors extended to avoid Check engine lights”.
It’s hard to tell but I think I have a Tubi Race Exhaust for 997TT based on what I see now vs. the pictures on SHARKWERKS site.(http://www.sharkwerks.com/products.php?pid=227)
While I live in Florida where there are no emissions checks I worry that this is a serious problem if I ever want to sell the car?
Am I overreacting to the missing CATS?
Am I the only person running no CATS on the street in states without emission testing?
I would appreciate any advice that the forum can give.
09 997.1 TT cab triple blue
12 BMW F800st
07 FZ6 - sold
98 M Roadster - sold
88 930 Turbo cab - sold
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Aside from exhaust gases, there should really be no issues with the mechanics of the car. If you sell the car in the future, especially to someone out of state, the buyer may take issue at the cost of replacing cats for the inspection portion of emissions testing.
what are "factory 997 TT lowering springs"?
Didn't realize porsche offered OEM lowering springs. can others confirm or is this another possible misrepresentation regarding the seller of this car.
Didn't realize porsche offered OEM lowering springs. can others confirm or is this another possible misrepresentation regarding the seller of this car.
Invoice from Champion Porsche says
Install lowering springs and alignment $370 parts and $225 Labor
part number CM997TT
description 997 TT SPR
I now suspect they are this item below.....
Champion Motorsport - Porsche 997 Turbo Sport Springs<cite>www.championmotorsportonline.com/product-p/cm997tt.htm</cite>
Alternative Views. Our Price: $499.00. Availability:: Usually Ships in 24 to 48 Hours Product Code: CM997TT. Extra Information. Related items for this product.
other item on invoice says GIAC ECU UPGRADE GIAC/997TT-19A $2000
Install lowering springs and alignment $370 parts and $225 Labor
part number CM997TT
description 997 TT SPR
I now suspect they are this item below.....
Champion Motorsport - Porsche 997 Turbo Sport Springs<cite>www.championmotorsportonline.com/product-p/cm997tt.htm</cite>
Alternative Views. Our Price: $499.00. Availability:: Usually Ships in 24 to 48 Hours Product Code: CM997TT. Extra Information. Related items for this product.
other item on invoice says GIAC ECU UPGRADE GIAC/997TT-19A $2000
Invoice from Champion Porsche says
Install lowering springs and alignment $370 parts and $225 Labor
part number CM997TT
description 997 TT SPR
I now suspect they are this item below.....
Champion Motorsport - Porsche 997 Turbo Sport Springs<cite>www.championmotorsportonline.com/product-p/cm997tt.htm</cite>
Alternative Views. Our Price: $499.00. Availability:: Usually Ships in 24 to 48 Hours Product Code: CM997TT. Extra Information. Related items for this product.
other item on invoice says GIAC ECU UPGRADE GIAC/997TT-19A $2000
Install lowering springs and alignment $370 parts and $225 Labor
part number CM997TT
description 997 TT SPR
I now suspect they are this item below.....
Champion Motorsport - Porsche 997 Turbo Sport Springs<cite>www.championmotorsportonline.com/product-p/cm997tt.htm</cite>
Alternative Views. Our Price: $499.00. Availability:: Usually Ships in 24 to 48 Hours Product Code: CM997TT. Extra Information. Related items for this product.
other item on invoice says GIAC ECU UPGRADE GIAC/997TT-19A $2000
Agreed. It appears that they like to blur to differences between Champion Motorsport (aftermarket tuner) and Champion Porsche (factory dealer).
After a few phone calls it seems like the cost to put cats back on this car will be close to $4650.00
What to do .....? Will i miss the extra HP that i have already come to love?
Either way this car is such a blast and "thank you" to forum for all the info that guided me to this purchase!
EAR TO EAR GRIN WITH EVERY THROTTLE STOMP
After a few phone calls it seems like the cost to put cats back on this car will be close to $4650.00
What to do .....? Will i miss the extra HP that i have already come to love?

Either way this car is such a blast and "thank you" to forum for all the info that guided me to this purchase!
EAR TO EAR GRIN WITH EVERY THROTTLE STOMP
Don't worry about catless issue. Believe me you are not the only one running catless on the Florida streets, especially in Orlando.
Doubtful there is even one Supra, Evo, or STi running around Orlando with a a catted exhaust.
Unless the exhaust fumes annoy you, there's no need to replace them with a catted exhaust. BUT if it is an issue, I may soon have a Miltek exhaust (with HJS cats) for you if your are ever interested.
Enjoy the ride. Aqua/Cobalt Blue is a really standout color!
Doubtful there is even one Supra, Evo, or STi running around Orlando with a a catted exhaust.
Unless the exhaust fumes annoy you, there's no need to replace them with a catted exhaust. BUT if it is an issue, I may soon have a Miltek exhaust (with HJS cats) for you if your are ever interested.
Enjoy the ride. Aqua/Cobalt Blue is a really standout color!
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Agreed. It appears that they like to blur to differences between Champion Motorsport (aftermarket tuner) and Champion Porsche (factory dealer).
After a few phone calls it seems like the cost to put cats back on this car will be close to $4650.00
What to do .....? Will i miss the extra HP that i have already come to love?
Either way this car is such a blast and "thank you" to forum for all the info that guided me to this purchase!
EAR TO EAR GRIN WITH EVERY THROTTLE STOMP
After a few phone calls it seems like the cost to put cats back on this car will be close to $4650.00
What to do .....? Will i miss the extra HP that i have already come to love?

Either way this car is such a blast and "thank you" to forum for all the info that guided me to this purchase!
EAR TO EAR GRIN WITH EVERY THROTTLE STOMP

That is for new cats, because the cats are integrated with the exhaust on the 997.1. Don't worry about, especially if you like the way the car sounds now. You can always either trade the tubi for a different exhaust with cats or you can trade it for a factory exhaust when you sell the car. A used factory exhaust should be $500-$750 depending.
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