Hello Gents!

Coming from a 2012 GT-R with full bolt ons here. Looking to finally fulfill the dream of owning a 997.1tt ... Been a lot of long nights searching online and driving to visit dealerships etc lol

Anyway, I am certain that I'm going for an 09 for sure. Main thing being the PCM 3.0 update. Looking to 80% daily drive the car. At some point in the winter it will go in for an Alpha kit for sure.

With that being said, am I crazy for going with the "higher" mileage cars on the market? I see a few that I like around 50-63k miles. Not too concerned about resale, I believe I can try and keep this one almost forever. It will be driven and it will be modified anyway.

Is there something that I should be concerned about with the higher mileage 997tt cars?

Thanks for any input guys.

 

Engines, trans and parts get very expensive when they break, so be wary. When you get that much power in these cars 1st gear is just too short, that is why I went with a PDK, it is wicked quick.

 

thanks for the feedback!

I can definitely understand that. I have access to a great local performance shop, and definitely not my first time with modifying higher end cars

How strong are these engines with simple bolt on upgrades with higher mileage? Can they still take a beating at the track, 3-4 times a year?

Would love to hear from guys that daily their cars and have higher mileages, as far as how their car has held up mechanically.

 

Just picked up an 09' manual with 40k miles CPO'd. Honestly, the car felt stronger than my past turbos that had 5k-20k miles on the dial. Try to pick one up that is Certified just in case but the 997.1 (metzger) engines are very reliable. They also have a very reliable history with mods.

Good luck and let us know what you end up with!

 

I'm about to go visit a CT Porsche dealer who has an 09 997tt meteor gray w lsd and adpative seats and some other cool options, has 58k on the odometer... granted it is a CPO car, is the $78.5k asking price on point? Or does it seem a little high with a vehicle with higher mileage.

Any advice / opinions gents?

 

I'd say get the newest lowest mileage car you can get

 

An 09 997.1 is a great spec, so if the car is equipped in a way that meets your personal list and if it checks out as a well maintained, no problems car, I'd offer about 70 and try to get it for 73-74. As long as you plan to keep the car for awhile and you plan to enjoy it don't let the miles dissuade you. These cars last forever if they're properly cared for.

 

$78.5 is reasonable starting point for an 09' with 58k miles when comparing to the 09' I just picked up for $82.5 with 40k CPO'd. I'd offer $75 and see where that leads.

Is it a fresh CPO or is it the balance of the previous owners CPO? If so how much longer? Has a major maintenence been performed, spark plugs I believe is a big one around 50k miles.

Like others have said already, if you find the car with specs you love, pull the trigger. The 09's have the metzger engine as well as the new PCM! Best of both worlds!

Good luck.

 

they have some wiggle room in the meteor grey one .
I all but had that car bought , then the dealer came back and offered the private seller what I did , so it made better sense for him to trade it in. I hated it , but understood his situation.

 

hey dookie... i assume we are talkng about the same car. if not too much to ask, could you pm me your offer to previous owner of the car? figure I can have a stronger bargaining leg to stand on agains the dealership. much appreciated.

 

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If it's a consigned car the whole process becomes more complicated. I think it's a little flaky on the dealers part to step in and usurp your offer, but what can you do?
Regarding the negotiating process in general I think it works best to open with a fairly low offer, not so low as to insult the dealer or make him think you're not a serious buyer, but somewhere on the order of 7-15% below their asking price. If you were to offer 75 on an asking price of 78.5 the dealer will usually counter with something like 77.5 which only results in a small savings. Of course if it's a smoking deal going in no negotiation may be required or possible.
In the case of my recent purchase I told the dealer I was around 80 on a car they were asking 89.9. They came back and said the lowest they would go was 85.5. I countered that I'd buy the car now for 84 and they accepted. The car is an 09, CPO, with all the right equipment and they hadn't even posted pics of the car yet as they had just received it on trade. I spent my life in the car business and I have to tell you the dealer loves to do deals, I know it sounds silly but they get pumped when they sell a car and the actually like quickly turning a car. They turn their capital and they can get on to the next deal. The secret to making money on used cars lies in turning your capital quickly. Think of it this way, if dlr one holds a car for max gross of say 3K but it takes three months to sell a car he makes 12K from his capital over the course of a year. If another dealer accept smaller deals, lets say 2k but sells his cars on average in a month he makes 24K with the same capital over a year. This is the secret to the used car business, it's called turn the capital. It also helps if your buying a car at the end of the month, again I know it sounds silly but the dealer lives or dies over that monthly financial statement and they really work hard to pump the gross at the end of the month. Here's another strange phenomenon I've observed, dlrs are most motivated when the car has just arrived in stock or has been around for way too long. Once they've held firm on a cars price for awhile and maybe passed on a couple of deals they are loath to admit the were wrong and can tend to hold out. If it sits way too long they'll fold and dump the car. They love consigned cars in one respect, they have no skin, risk or capital in the game. Keep in mind these are generalizations, every dealer is different.
Of course none of this matters if you arrive and drool all over the car and tell them it's just what you've been looking for. You have to remain detached so that they believe that you will walk if you don't get your price. In my case I would have paid their 85.5 counter offer, maybe even a little more as it is a really nicely equipped 09, but if the dealer suspected that I'd be toast. Good luck with the search and I hope this insight helps a little with the negotiating process.

 

I'll admit I'm an open book on pricing (see my post above) but we're all in this together. In that context I think it helps if people post on the forum so everyone can gain knowledge on what exactly is going on with pricing. A PM with that information limits it's benefit to just one person.

 

Make sure it is NOT a Sandy car

I looked at a few "lower priced" 997.1 2009 6MT and 2 of 4 had undisclosed flood damage... still had dirt in places where dirt doesn't get

For that car and those miles if very good 73.5$k-76k

 

I was in your position just 2 months ago but I finally pulled the trigger on an 09 TT in April. I am still getting used to the car's awesome power and handling and it puts a big smile on my face every time I drive it. I think the 09 has the best combination of engine and amenities and was focusing exclusively on that MY. It had 33,400 miles on it, no CPO but a year remaining on aftermarket extended warranty. Paid 77.5k plus the cost to transport it home 2500 miles. Every car I looked at was a minimum of 700 miles from where I live. Not many TT Cabs in New England. I had both experiences that 550bryan mentions. I contacted the dealer for my car about a week after they listed it and worked a very quick fair deal in my opinion. Prior to that I was negotiating on a car that was listed for over 7 months and instead of taking my offer the dealer went and auctioned the car instead. It had half the miles and they wanted 12k more. They were stuck on a price and wouldn't budge. Funny thing is a P dealer 70 miles from my house went and bought it at auction but I had already closed the deal on the one I bought. Good luck on your quest.