My 2011 Turbo S with OEM CL wheels needs new tires.

It came with the Pilot Sport PS2's, but I recall reading on here that the Pilot Super Sport are even better handling…plus cheaper.

I've actually been considering the Pilot Sport Cup's. I know they're an awesome tire and come OEM on the GT3's.
I figure I only drive 3-4k miles a year and I avoid ever driving it in the rain.

Any opinions?
Anyone else here running these tires?
How many miles should I expect from just street driving?

Thanks in advance!

 

My PSS tires are the best tires I've owned. Quite, sticky in dry and wet conditions, affordable, and should be long lasting.

A copy from a post by Cannga:
Tire Comparison Bridgestone RE 11 vs. Michelin PS2 and PSS
RE11 is stiffer than PSS, about 1/2 way between PSS and cup tire with respect to stiffness. The stiffness reduces ride comfort a little bit (I think it would be fine for 95% of people with stock suspension and 90% of people with Bilstein :-).) but makes handling and steering so much more precise and fun. Body roll is reducing noticeably compared to PSS. The key is that the reduction in body roll makes the car corners as if it is on rails. This is the best my car has ever felt when it comes to steering and handling, short of the Pirelli Corsa cup tire (which I don't want to use because it is so dangerous on wet roads and so costly). Really, the car corners *beautifully* with these Bridgestone babies.

Road noise is about same between RE 11 and PSS. Traction is close enough that without instrumented, professional-level testing, I doubt I could ever tell a difference. Wear: I don't expect RE11 to last nearly as long as PSS, which IMHO is a game changer with respect to performance tire: 20k miles in my Turbo - unprecedented.

Before you run out and order these tires, please note my bias: I place handling above all so I tend to sacrifice comfort a little more than normal people . I also live in a hilly/mountainous area so body roll has to be minimized for my taste. If you find yourself with same preference, I would recommend them without hesitation. I think of RE 11 as cup tire with less dry traction, but without the wet road danger ;-). Cheaper, sporty, SO MUCH fun!

Lots of tire talk in this thread:
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-re-11s-2.html
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I have been used all Michelin performance tires(PS1, PS2, PSS, Cup) and Cup tires are by far the best tires. Grip is day and night difference compare to others while they are still quiet and streetable. However if you don't track your car, Cup tires may be overkill. Probably PSS tires are better bang for the buck tires for 100% street cars. I do track my car 2~3 times a year and drive about 4~5k miles and never drive in wet condition so the Cup tires are perfect for me.

 

Agree with the above, would only interchange re11s with the pss, both great tires. Note that neither PSS or re11s are N rated at this time, if that makes a difference to you.

 

PSS are one of the best all-around tire if you are just street driving. They have incredible cold and warm grip, and terrific wet traction. No other tire can perform as well in all of these conditions. And the price is very reasonable. Much better than Pilot Sport Cups which need heat in them to work...so they are much more geared toward the race track (obviously).


You can track the PSS as well but you have to be careful because they will melt if you push the car and can be downright dangerous. I have tracked them on a cold day and they were good for 10 laps at Big Willow. But on a hot day they melted after only 3 laps and the car became undrivable.


One more thing, PSS come 9/32 of tread depth which is 2/32 more than most others plus with the 300 treadwear rating...they last longer!


Good luck.

 

Thanks for all the replies.

I'm leaning towards the PSS for now.

The Sport Cups may be awesome but may be overkill as well.

 

Pilot Super Sport and never look back. Great tires for the money.

 

Love PSS

 

Look at it this way, the way these things go through tires, you'll get plenty of chances to try em all out.

 

Just to add to your "testing" list.....I changed from the factory fill RE050 to S04's recently. So far very happy...do about 3k miles a year 99% in the dry.

 

So true. I always think that when people (and me as well) torture themselves about what tires to use. it's not like it's a lifetime decision.

 

++Michelin PSS...awesome tires. I didn't care much for Bridgestone tires.

 

Agreed with all comments, just like to add my own experience. First, a brief summary of some of the more popular tires on this forum - note my comment on sidewall stiffness, this is not often discussed but is a major parameter that you might want to pay attention to when selecting tire:

PSS: soft sidewall, excellent traction, amazing wear (in this aspect a game changer - 20,000 miles in my car). This is the best all around comfortable city tire. Regarding wear, the tire noise and compliance were horrible towards the end of the 20,000 miles, so even though it does last that long, you might want to replace it before that.

Bridgestone RE 11: stiff sidewall hence less comfort but *noticeably* more aggressive, or "better" handling. Traction same as PSS, wear probably around 2/3 of PSS. This is a favorite tire of some of the track junkies on this forum (VID997, E55AMG) for a reason: it is an outstanding "handling" tire. It is in some way a Cup tire for the street, with better wet handling. This is my favorite tire and in my car it provides the very best handling to date - incredibly enjoyable around corners and reduces body roll significantly compared to PSS.

R comp/Michelin Cup: stiff sidewall like RE 11, and of course, traction that put the above 2 tire to shame, but only during track or extremely aggressive driving in canyon twisties, etc. - you WILL notice the difference. For street driving, it's probably over kill and of course, it's extremely dangerous in the wet.
This type of tire is necessary primarily for track junkies, for mountain roads, and for extremely high powered car during time trials (better traction so tires don't spin). If Michelin cup is too expensive for your taste, some (not all) people like Toyo Proxes R888, costing 1000 less or so for set of 4.

IMHO, the point to take home is that like many other things in our car (exhaust, suspension, ECU tune, etc.), there is not a single best solution; there is no right or wrong. You just pick what best fits you. That said, if you haven't tried, I think it's a good idea to try different tires because it is a great education for this motorsports hobby. As TTSurgeon and E55AMG have mentioned, tires don't last forever so it's not like you are "stuck" with any given choice, just a couple years at most . The R comp/cup tire is a bucket list that you should try once at least, just to see what the brouhaha is all about. Just remember it's for aggressive driving only and it is NOT to be used on wet road, where it is outright dangerous.

 

Hmmm If I'm going from a PS2 to a PSS will I notice much difference on the track? I just do DEs two or three times a year.

 

Another vote for Pilot Super Sport. I did not care much for the Bridgestones. PSS rides quieter and more comfortably. They also look cooler too.