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Old Jun 24, 2015 | 11:07 AM
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Should I fear a used modded 997.1 TT?

First post here. I'm thinking about a 997 TT. I found one local to me that is generally what I want (manual, Sports Chrono) but it has been modded. The price seems reasonable ($70K Cdn= $55K USD) but the mileage is somewhat high (80K miles). The car has been modded. The description is:
"In addition to its factory options, the car also has a Milltek exhaust system, upgraded turbochargers, a brand new sport clutch, lower Eibach suspension, spacers, brand new wheels and tires and an APR tuned computer. With these mods, the car produces over 560 hp!"
I'm assuming the car has been tracked. Other than the DME, what else should I be checking for?
 
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What turbos and what clutch.
 
Old Jun 24, 2015 | 02:37 PM
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I'll ask. The dealer says the car makes 560 HP. Does that sound believable?
 
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Originally Posted by Flat Earth
I'll ask. The dealer says the car makes 560 HP. Does that sound believable?
Yea, tune and exhaust alone could bring it up to the 570 ish range.
 
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I personally don't buy Modded car unless I can steal them super cheap. Never know what will let go next.
 

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I personally don't buy Modded car unless I can steal them super cheap. Never know what will let go next.
It's because of people like you that gives modding the value it has. Thank you for your support in continuing to devalue the market.

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First post here. I'm thinking about a 997 TT. I found one local to me that is generally what I want (manual, Sports Chrono) but it has been modded. The price seems reasonable ($70K Cdn= $55K USD) but the mileage is somewhat high (80K miles). The car has been modded. The description is:
"In addition to its factory options, the car also has a Milltek exhaust system, upgraded turbochargers, a brand new sport clutch, lower Eibach suspension, spacers, brand new wheels and tires and an APR tuned computer. With these mods, the car produces over 560 hp!"
I'm assuming the car has been tracked. Other than the DME, what else should I be checking for?
OP: I wouldn't shy away from a modded car and I wouldn't assume just because it has mods, that it has been tracked. That being said, probably watch out for this one. I shy away from mods when they aren't from the most high end suppliers.
 
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It's because of people like you that gives modding the value it has. Thank you for your support in continuing to devalue the market.



OP: I wouldn't shy away from a modded car and I wouldn't assume just because it has mods, that it has been tracked. That being said, probably watch out for this one. I shy away from mods when they aren't from the most high end suppliers.
It looks like the named mods in his original post are from high end suppliers.

Also, it really depends on each individual situation. If you are familiar with the market and the cars, buying a modded vehicle can save you a lot of money particularly if you are looking to do similar modifications yourself. Additionally, many modders are actually more conscientious about maintenance and preventative work. In the case of my car, I spent as much money on future proofing my car and getting everything up to like-new condition as I did the mods themselves. I also don't get into boost before oil temps are above 150 deg, and I know to take it easy the last few miles before putting the car up. Little things like that the average user doesn't know or care about, but can potentially make a positive difference down the road over a stock car that was not abused, but possibly a bit neglected by the oblivious prior owner.
 
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It looks like the named mods in his original post are from high end suppliers.

Also, it really depends on each individual situation. If you are familiar with the market and the cars, buying a modded vehicle can save you a lot of money particularly if you are looking to do similar modifications yourself. Additionally, many modders are actually more conscientious about maintenance and preventative work. In the case of my car, I spent as much money on future proofing my car and getting everything up to like-new condition as I did the mods themselves. I also don't get into boost before oil temps are above 150 deg, and I know to take it easy the last few miles before putting the car up. Little things like that the average user doesn't know or care about, but can potentially make a positive difference down the road over a stock car that was not abused, but possibly a bit neglected by the oblivious prior owner.

This is a good point. I do the same. I don't even rev the car till it's warmed up because of the turbos. I'd like to see a tune from GIAC or Cobb though and an exhaust from europipe, kline, bbi, AWE, GMG. The springs are fine. But we don't know the clutch, turbochargers, and wheel brands.
 
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Originally Posted by speedsterr
It's because of people like you that gives modding the value it has. Thank you for your support in continuing to devalue the market.



OP: I wouldn't shy away from a modded car and I wouldn't assume just because it has mods, that it has been tracked. That being said, probably watch out for this one. I shy away from mods when they aren't from the most high end suppliers.
Spot on!
 
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Should I fear a used modded 997.1 TT?

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Spot on!
I felt the same way
 
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OP: most shoppers for Porsche turbos are looking for low mileage unaltered versions, and of course these ultra low mileage un modded cars are becoming few and far between. A well maintained modded car with good maintenance records can, therefore, can be a good buy and usually at a better price than a stock car. Don't hesitate to get a ppi from a reputable Porsche shop. A good ppi should preclude any unwanted surprises.
 
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Thanks for the responses. I'm awaiting a reply from the dealer about the un-named mods.

Umm, is there such a thing as too much hp? My current ride is an E90 335i which makes about 300 hp. I've never been on a track, but I drive aggressively. I have a little fear about almost doubling the power. I don't want to end up dead in some ditch from oversteer. Is 560 hp something that can be coped with after a few weekends (or more?) of pro instruction?
 
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I sometimes wish I purchased my vehicle modded. It would have saved me tons of money. As long as the car was properly cared for I don't see a problem.
 
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No. Don't fear a modded car. I bought mine with a ton of high quality stuff on it and its been perfect. Go for it.
 
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Originally Posted by Flat Earth
Thanks for the responses. I'm awaiting a reply from the dealer about the un-named mods.

Umm, is there such a thing as too much hp? My current ride is an E90 335i which makes about 300 hp. I've never been on a track, but I drive aggressively. I have a little fear about almost doubling the power. I don't want to end up dead in some ditch from oversteer. Is 560 hp something that can be coped with after a few weekends (or more?) of pro instruction?
I DD my TTS. And before that I DD'd at 663 hp shelby gt500 2013. With time you get use to all of these and it becomes easy to control if you have any decent level of skill and common sense.

Too much power really is when the car can't handle it. The turbo I'd say doesn't really reach that point at least in the .2 up to 650 hp.

Originally Posted by kwiksilver
OP: most shoppers for Porsche turbos are looking for low mileage unaltered versions, and of course these ultra low mileage un modded cars are becoming few and far between. A well maintained modded car with good maintenance records can, therefore, can be a good buy and usually at a better price than a stock car. Don't hesitate to get a ppi from a reputable Porsche shop. A good ppi should preclude any unwanted surprises.
I got my 12 TTS back in december with 800 miles and every option you could get short of colored gauges and stitching (I really wish this guy did them both in yellow). He even did the seat belts and mats in red. Now it has 4500 miles. So you are saying I should stop driving my car because it will become be even more of a gem in a year or 2?
 


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