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Old Aug 25, 2018 | 02:27 PM
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Whats your thoughts on this car?

5 219/673 hr
6 1/673 hr
 

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Range 6 is a glitch and 4 and 5 are ancient. If the PPI looks good and the car runs strong I wouldn't worry about it.

Edit: Only real con will be having to deal with frightened DME weenies when you go to sell it - I wouldn't advise listing it on BaT, for example.
 

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I wouldn't worry either. Nothing to report for the last 800 hrs
 
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Both of your comments were what I was thinking. But I was mostly concerned of the amount of 5's. So that is saying its hit the 5 range 165 times??
 
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No, that it had 165 ignitions in range 5. Probably one missed shift (at 673 hours) for a fraction of a second.
 
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Originally Posted by Skwerl
No, that it had 165 ignitions in range 5. Probably one missed shift (at 673 hours) for a fraction of a second.

Ahhhh......so no worries. I can only imagine what my old BMW M3s and VW Scirocco 16Vs had as far as overrevs had they tracked them!!
 
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dont worry about it
 
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How many total hours on the DME?

5 219/673 hr
6 1/673 hr

I thought this meant...219 instances of overrev 5 at hour 673, but don't we need to know the total hours on the vehicle?
 
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How many total hours on the DME?

5 219/673 hr
6 1/673 hr

I thought this meant...219 instances of overrev 5 at hour 673, but don't we need to know the total hours on the vehicle?
Total hours are 1497. After talking to a Porsche tech, these guys are correct, its 219 (1 incident) ignitions (I think 4 ignitions = a total motor revolution one time) at 673 hours and the 6 is 1 ignition which they also said is just a fluke since its the same time. It only records the latest or last incident. So it was a long time ago.
 
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Agreed...since that long ago you are fine.
 
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Agreed...since that long ago you are fine.
Talked to techs at 3 different shops ans you guys, same consensus.....all is good.
 
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Whats your thoughts on this car?

5 219/673 hr
6 1/673 hr

it is amazing, porsche guys are the only ones who are up in arms about **** like this.......bought every other manufacturer and never have to deal with people complaining about stuff like this.....its actually amazing.....your bent out of shape on an overrev in a carrera S but we dont run these when you buy an aventador.
 
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Originally Posted by Lennon31987
it is amazing, porsche guys are the only ones who are up in arms about **** like this.......bought every other manufacturer and never have to deal with people complaining about stuff like this.....its actually amazing.....your bent out of shape on an overrev in a carrera S but we dont run these when you buy an aventador.
Yeah, you can pretty much guarantee that some of the biggest DME weenies who flee in terror from any 911 that's ever brushed redline have owned plenty of other sports cars with undocumented money shifts or "bad" rev histories.
 
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Originally Posted by Lennon31987
it is amazing, porsche guys are the only ones who are up in arms about **** like this.......bought every other manufacturer and never have to deal with people complaining about stuff like this.....its actually amazing.....your bent out of shape on an overrev in a carrera S but we dont run these when you buy an aventador.

i think DME worries are for manual cars. Aventador can’t over rev since it’s an auto. I think it is a smart way to know what yo u are getting into. If it is good enough for Porsche to void your warranty and tell you that you are **** out of luck, then I think buyers and sellers should just be upfront about it. I’d rather worry about a DME and not a resprayed front bumper. To each his own.


Also...to be clear....over rev isn't really worrying about driving the car near redline.....it is more so taking a look at the over rec that MECHANICALLY occurs when you are doing high speeds and you mis-shift into a lower gear. A that point the wheel rpm feeds back into engine and the engine RPM is taken to levels that are usually prevented by the ecu and fuel cutoff and rev limiters etc. This instantaneous stress on the internals is indeed what an over rev 6 is capturing.
 

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i think DME worries are for manual cars. Aventador can’t over rev since it’s an auto. I think it is a smart way to know what yo u are getting into. If it is good enough for Porsche to void your warranty and tell you that you are **** out of luck, then I think buyers and sellers should just be upfront about it. I’d rather worry about a DME and not a resprayed front bumper. To each his own.


Also...to be clear....over rev isn't really worrying about driving the car near redline.....it is more so taking a look at the over rec that MECHANICALLY occurs when you are doing high speeds and you mis-shift into a lower gear. A that point the wheel rpm feeds back into engine and the engine RPM is taken to levels that are usually prevented by the ecu and fuel cutoff and rev limiters etc. This instantaneous stress on the internals is indeed what an over rev 6 is capturing.

again, this is really just in the Porsche world.....m cars, other manual cars, ferrari's, everything else, we dont look at DME reports. also if you buy the car CPO from a Porsche dealer then you are fine with a warranty.

and yes you can't over rev an auto, but sitting in first gear in a true f1 gearbox, bouncing off the rev limiter isnt very good either.

and look at 50% of the DME questions in this 997 subforum, many are asking about PDK equipped cars, so they are still sitting worrying, even tho its not a manual and you, in your words, cant 'overrev'
 


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