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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 03:49 AM
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I wonder if they can produce a thicker brake shim as that's the reason the Carbon brakes squick. There is to much clearance between the current shim, pad and caliper. This is done because the brakes are meant for track use where heat expends the brake parts and works properly, but for the street the brakes do not get hot enough and there is pad movement within the caliper, hence the squicking.
I am sure they could...question is, how much thicker?

I have noticed that while driving through rain, and for almost the day after the rain, my brakes don't squeak/squeal.
 
Old Apr 30, 2014 | 04:35 AM
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Well, what about EBC Redstuff ceramics? I ran these on my Jags..

Need to find correct fitment...
 

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I think brake squeal is a hit or miss proposition. Mine are totally silent all the time.
 
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Im having some anti squeal things done to my system tomorrow. I will report back to what was all done and if it was successful next week after i have some miles on them.
 
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Originally Posted by XJRS Owner
I think brake squeal is a hit or miss proposition. Mine are totally silent all the time.

From what i have learned is that this issue was corrected with an updated shim kit and now new pads that come with the updated shims. But the earlier cars did come with a thinner shim that causes them to squick. My car has 7k miles on it and the issue has never been addressed. Ive had the dealer check. The problem is that the dealer will not sell the new shims separately, you have to buy them with the pads. 1600 for just front.
 
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So I have purchased a used set of front pads. I am gonna let Adam at ampdautosport use them as a template to make more. I am sure he can include appropriate shims on the pads to reduce (or eliminate?) the squeak/squeal, and we'll be able to purchase them at a much more reasonable price.

I have inspected my pads and I can't see any shims/any backing pieces on my pads. If this is the problem then it is a simple fix! I am sure Adam could manufacture separate shims for people not yet ready to swap out their pads...
 
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You might try buying some of these to see if they fit. They are Brembo OEM for the ZR1. If you do buy, make sure you buy from a place where you can return them if they are not identical to the ones in your DBS.

171-1010 AC Delco Front Pads
171-1009 AC Delco Rear Pads

Also, for the squealing, you might want to try executing this AM SB:

http://documents.clubexpress.com/doc...l9IpKvdMH3A%3d
 
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Originally Posted by rscultho
So I have purchased a used set of front pads. I am gonna let Adam at ampdautosport use them as a template to make more. I am sure he can include appropriate shims on the pads to reduce (or eliminate?) the squeak/squeal, and we'll be able to purchase them at a much more reasonable price.

I have inspected my pads and I can't see any shims/any backing pieces on my pads. If this is the problem then it is a simple fix! I am sure Adam could manufacture separate shims for people not yet ready to swap out their pads...

This would be a great alternative solution. How long would it take Adam to put something like this together?
 
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Originally Posted by XJRS Owner
You might try buying some of these to see if they fit. They are Brembo OEM for the ZR1. If you do buy, make sure you buy from a place where you can return them if they are not identical to the ones in your DBS.

171-1010 AC Delco Front Pads
171-1009 AC Delco Rear Pads

Also, for the squealing, you might want to try executing this AM SB:

http://documents.clubexpress.com/doc...l9IpKvdMH3A%3d

Great info. Is this someting i can do with existing pads or do i need to get new pads? Also section A item 5 is confusing a bit if you read items 1-4. Any input guys? Maybe im just reading it wrong.
 
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Yes, thanks XJRS for the info.

Section A, item 5 just say to stop moderately hard 14 times. The first 4 steps mentions cooling the brakes. I imagine you should use your best judgement of whether cooling the brakes is important.

14 times - wow. That's quite a bit of stopping to bed in the brakes.
 
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This is a picture that compares the OEM front DBS pads to teh AC Delco 171-1010 pads...
 
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This is a picture that compares the OEM front DBS pads to teh AC Delco 171-1010 pads...
Something isn't right to me. The ZR1 disc looks identical to the DBS and so does the caliper. The pads on the right side of the photo would never fit the ZR1 front caliper. Maybe the P/N is wrong or the photo you posted?
 
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Something isn't right to me. The ZR1 disc looks identical to the DBS and so does the caliper. The pads on the right side of the photo would never fit the ZR1 front caliper. Maybe the P/N is wrong or the photo you posted?
I did a search online for AC Delco 171-1010...that's the image that came up when I did the search.

The pads on the left came off of a DBS...
 
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Originally Posted by rscultho
I did a search online for AC Delco 171-1010...that's the image that came up when I did the search.

The pads on the left came off of a DBS...
Just a generic image. Those are not ZR1 front pads. You'd have to visit an AC Delco supplier and compare the DBS pads directly, unless you can get one of the ZR1 boys on CorvetteForum to snap you a real good photo.
 
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rscultho Ive been doing research and even though the pads look different they will work. Take a look at the two links below. Both are talking about converting to steel rotors from carbon on a zr1 and f430. Pay attention to the pictures of the stock and aftermarket pads. You will see that they all look diffrient but fit the set up nevertheless.

http://cantechautomotive.com/2011/12...or-conversion/

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...onversion.html
 


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