Carbon Ceramic brake pad options
Ah, well, I think I will see if I can get a set of the front pads through my company. If they can order them I will get them at cost + 10%...and if they don't in fact fit I can return them.
I am about tired of the really bad squeal. Sometimes they are *very* loud. It is somewhat embarrassing in traffic. I am driving a 6 figure car and the thing sounds like a stuck pig in stop and go traffic.
I am about tired of the really bad squeal. Sometimes they are *very* loud. It is somewhat embarrassing in traffic. I am driving a 6 figure car and the thing sounds like a stuck pig in stop and go traffic.
rscultho Ive been doing research and even though the pads look different they will work. Take a look at the two links below. Both are talking about converting to steel rotors from carbon on a zr1 and f430. Pay attention to the pictures of the stock and aftermarket pads. You will see that they all look diffrient but fit the set up nevertheless.
http://cantechautomotive.com/2011/12...or-conversion/
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...onversion.html
http://cantechautomotive.com/2011/12...or-conversion/
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...onversion.html
And, looking at the link in the thread, cost is about $4K to convert to the steel rotors and pads...that's still very expensive, but cheaper than replacing the CCB rotors I guess.
http://www.racingbrake.com/ProductDe...ductCode=ZR1-P
EDIT: I cannot order them through my company - sucks. Will have to look for them through other means...
Last edited by rscultho; May 6, 2014 at 05:24 AM.
Excellent find on the CorvetteForum. Looks like I maybe was wrong that the photo posted by rscultho was generic. Any way, if the price from AM is too high, I'd order some ZR1 pads and return if they didn't fit.
Ah, well, I think I will see if I can get a set of the front pads through my company. If they can order them I will get them at cost + 10%...and if they don't in fact fit I can return them.
I am about tired of the really bad squeal. Sometimes they are *very* loud. It is somewhat embarrassing in traffic. I am driving a 6 figure car and the thing sounds like a stuck pig in stop and go traffic.
I am about tired of the really bad squeal. Sometimes they are *very* loud. It is somewhat embarrassing in traffic. I am driving a 6 figure car and the thing sounds like a stuck pig in stop and go traffic.
Im going through the same squeaking problem and have been working on it for the past two weeks. From what I understand you do not need to get new pads. You can deglase your existing set. The issue is when the carbon ceramic brake system is not broken in correctly when new, this is the issue you deal with. Even if you get new pads, if you don't go through the proper brake in process as suggested in the ASTON bulletin earlier attached by XJRS Owner, your issue will come back.
Im looking for a local race shop that is familiar with the carbon ceramic set up. Im going to have them deglaze my existing pads and rotors(if needed) then brake them in as the should have been in the first place, which should solve the problem for good. If not, Im converting to steal rotors. Ive done more research and it looks like you can just purchase the rotor disc and reuse our current rotor had. If that's the case the entire conversion should be about 2k. Ill be working on this for the next few days with my Brebmo rep and will keep everyone posted.
Im going through the same squeaking problem and have been working on it for the past two weeks. From what I understand you do not need to get new pads. You can deglase your existing set. The issue is when the carbon ceramic brake system is not broken in correctly when new, this is the issue you deal with. Even if you get new pads, if you don't go through the proper brake in process as suggested in the ASTON bulletin earlier attached by XJRS Owner, your issue will come back.
Im looking for a local race shop that is familiar with the carbon ceramic set up. Im going to have them deglaze my existing pads and rotors(if needed) then brake them in as the should have been in the first place, which should solve the problem for good. If not, Im converting to steal rotors. Ive done more research and it looks like you can just purchase the rotor disc and reuse our current rotor had. If that's the case the entire conversion should be about 2k. Ill be working on this for the next few days with my Brebmo rep and will keep everyone posted.
Im looking for a local race shop that is familiar with the carbon ceramic set up. Im going to have them deglaze my existing pads and rotors(if needed) then brake them in as the should have been in the first place, which should solve the problem for good. If not, Im converting to steal rotors. Ive done more research and it looks like you can just purchase the rotor disc and reuse our current rotor had. If that's the case the entire conversion should be about 2k. Ill be working on this for the next few days with my Brebmo rep and will keep everyone posted.
If you switch to Steel/Iron rotors the ceramic pads will chew them up more quickly than a softer pad. Depending on how expensive the rotors are a softer pad my be in order.
I have done everything to get my carbon ceramic brakes to stop squicking. The only thing that works is to have them wormed up by 80-0 stops about 4-6 times and they stay quite for about a days worth driving or washing the brake dust off the rotor with a power washer which last about a day as well.
With that said I have been doing a lot of research about steel rotor conversions. This is a typical conversion in the Porsche, Ferrari and Corvette world. A lot of track guys have this done. There are a couple of companies that offer these kits, the one I decided to go with is Warren with Racing Brakes. They have these kits already built for Ferrari, Porsche and Corvette application. With my help they are going to develop a kit for our cars. I have taken off my rotors and pads and have sent them over to have measured. We do know that the rotor is the same as the F430 and the ZR1 but the hat is application specific.
I will keep everyone updated. I should have my brake parts back by the end of the week. In the mean time if any of you need part numbers or pictures of any of the brake parts let me know before I put the car back together.
I'm hoping to have this conversion all done by mid July.
These guys also build custom carbon ceramic rotors and pads.
With that said I have been doing a lot of research about steel rotor conversions. This is a typical conversion in the Porsche, Ferrari and Corvette world. A lot of track guys have this done. There are a couple of companies that offer these kits, the one I decided to go with is Warren with Racing Brakes. They have these kits already built for Ferrari, Porsche and Corvette application. With my help they are going to develop a kit for our cars. I have taken off my rotors and pads and have sent them over to have measured. We do know that the rotor is the same as the F430 and the ZR1 but the hat is application specific.
I will keep everyone updated. I should have my brake parts back by the end of the week. In the mean time if any of you need part numbers or pictures of any of the brake parts let me know before I put the car back together.
I'm hoping to have this conversion all done by mid July.
These guys also build custom carbon ceramic rotors and pads.
Update! The kit that my parts were used to develop is done. Take a look at the link below. It will take another 6-8 weeks for my parts to come in but as soon as they do I will take detailed pics and provide feed back after install. I already know that Im going to love this set up! This is the system I was running on my old Murcielago, as far as caliper and rotor size as well as steel rotor vs carbon ceramic and pretty much what I have on my 1,000hp Viper so the DBS will love it. Best part NO MORE FKN SQUICKING lol
http://www.racingbrake.com/RB-Iron-T...-R-p/dbs-p.htm
http://www.racingbrake.com/RB-Iron-T...-R-p/dbs-p.htm
Update! The kit that my parts were used to develop is done. Take a look at the link below. It will take another 6-8 weeks for my parts to come in but as soon as they do I will take detailed pics and provide feed back after install. I already know that Im going to love this set up! This is the system I was running on my old Murcielago, as far as caliper and rotor size as well as steel rotor vs carbon ceramic and pretty much what I have on my 1,000hp Viper so the DBS will love it. Best part NO MORE FKN SQUICKING lol
http://www.racingbrake.com/RB-Iron-T...-R-p/dbs-p.htm
http://www.racingbrake.com/RB-Iron-T...-R-p/dbs-p.htm
found @ Auto Anything. Ceramics are between 107.49 for rear, and about 123 for fronts. only drawback is they don't have holes for sensors. You want the "Red". Yellow is for recing
On the ceramic brakes topic:
My daily driver is a AUDI A5 3.0TDI quattro which has a standard AUDI S5 brake-setup on the front-axle: Single-piston 57mm / 2.25" on 345mm / 13.5" rotors.
I recently acquired an OEM Brembo 6-piston mono-cast which is fitted as option to the AUDI RS5, RS6 and RS7. This is the full Ceramic disc + pad-set which, when using a different Hat, is installed on the Lamborghini's and other exotics as well.
It came with an additional set of Titanium HATS (it's fitted on my AUDI with Aluminium ones) that looks like it may fit the DB9 [given the pitch]. Well, that's what I hope and at least I'm going to do a trial fit once my car arrives and will let you guys know my findings.
Needless to say that break-performance had quadrupled since converting from Steel rotors + ceramic Pads to Ceramic Rotors + pads: I'm only having concerns that my control-arms will soon tear-off under load.... Unsprung-weight has also greatly improved.
One last thing; the caliper just clears the inside of the 19" RS4-rim by 1/16" / 1.5mm. I'm keen to find out whether it will clear the standard 19" DB9 rim as well.
Pictures:
My daily driver is a AUDI A5 3.0TDI quattro which has a standard AUDI S5 brake-setup on the front-axle: Single-piston 57mm / 2.25" on 345mm / 13.5" rotors.
I recently acquired an OEM Brembo 6-piston mono-cast which is fitted as option to the AUDI RS5, RS6 and RS7. This is the full Ceramic disc + pad-set which, when using a different Hat, is installed on the Lamborghini's and other exotics as well.
It came with an additional set of Titanium HATS (it's fitted on my AUDI with Aluminium ones) that looks like it may fit the DB9 [given the pitch]. Well, that's what I hope and at least I'm going to do a trial fit once my car arrives and will let you guys know my findings.
Needless to say that break-performance had quadrupled since converting from Steel rotors + ceramic Pads to Ceramic Rotors + pads: I'm only having concerns that my control-arms will soon tear-off under load.... Unsprung-weight has also greatly improved.
One last thing; the caliper just clears the inside of the 19" RS4-rim by 1/16" / 1.5mm. I'm keen to find out whether it will clear the standard 19" DB9 rim as well.
Pictures:
Contact Stuart@VelocityAP...he says he can get OEM pads for less than retail. These are the numbers he gave me on the pads.
8D33-2C562-BA
BRAKE PAD KIT REAR (AXLE SET) 876
8D33-2D007-BA
BRAKE PAD KIT FRONT (AXLE SET) 1202
8D33-2C562-BA
BRAKE PAD KIT REAR (AXLE SET) 876
8D33-2D007-BA
BRAKE PAD KIT FRONT (AXLE SET) 1202
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