Gents,

I own a vantage 2007 and I'm a very happy owner.

Business is good so I've been looking to change it for a new Mclaren 570s or a Huracan Lp-580-2(good pricing).

There's also 2-3 Vanquish 2014 here in Canada on the market with really good price.(Around 200k$ CAD)

While the Lambo command a larger price(around 250k$ CAD fairly equipped), the depreciation will be around 10-15/per year and probably around 15-20/per year for the Mclaren (230k$)

So as much as I like Aston Martin, here are my fears concerning the Vanquish Plan:

- Aston Martin will introduce the new generation of AM cars at the end of the year with the db9 successor. I'm pretty sure it will priced around 200k$ and will rock the new design with the amg engine... I'm not sure the Vanquish will hold in the 'look department'...

- The 2014 Vanquish comes with the 6 speed gearbox witch seems to be really bad based on many reviews. They upgraded it for the ZF 8speed in 2015 so I'm guessing there wont be any demands for a 2014 in 2-3 years when I want to sale mine...

- Lastly: DEPRECIATION; man those things are falling like a rock: at the moment we are looking at a 200k$ 2014 Vanquish that was paid around 350k$ 2 years ago... While I wont get that large part of depreciation I still think this car will be worth 125-130k$ in 2-3 years(based on current 2011 DBS selling for 130k$) so I'm looking at something between 30-40k$ depreciation/per year.

With all that negative, I still love the Vanquish, it's breathtaking but the financials just doesn't add up? Am I right to think that way?

Someone looking to buy a used 2014 Vanquish too?

Regards

 

Drove a Vanquish with that 6 speed box and did not like it. Was a poor match for the engine. Would love a Vanquish but would only consider the ZF box.

 

Firstly, they are both ZF boxes; 6 or 8 speed.
The 6 speed works perfectly fine based on a test drive I took, especially in Sport mode. Also, many who have the 8 speed have complained about clunking during shifts from 1 to 2. AM/ZF are working on a fix, but nothing yet.
DB11 will have a twin turbo'd AM V12, not an AMG engine.
Personally, I'd go with the 6 speed. For an autotrans, who really needs 8 gears?

 

8 is better than 6. Closer ratios = quicker acceleration with less "dead" spots and better response to throttle inputs.

Typically a 6 speed has 3 or 4 acceleration ratios, a 1:1 ratio (or close to) and 1-2 over drive economy ratios.

An 8 speed can have 5 acceleration ratios. More is better.

Granted this depends upon the gear ratios selected by the auto maker, but as a general rule, makes for a significantly quicker car.

 

It's a Vanquish. You don't buy it for the gear box. Having said that, i would def go for the Mac.

 

An Aston is never going to be the fastest car in its peer group, so who cares. Much better to have a good 6 speed than a clunky 8 speed. Unless you've driven both, you don't know what they are really like. Journalists know jack, so they end up passing on lots of misinformation about what it's like to drive a car, and then the public says things like the 6 speed is bad....all BS.

 

Not sure how you can dislike this transmission. It's a 6speed auto. Perfect for the platform. The 8 speed transmission belongs in a luxury car in my opinion. It was a complete waste of redesign. 8 speed is pointless in the vanquish.

 

Agreed. When did the 6-speed become a bad transmission? Seems like people are all excited about something new and assume 8-speed is better because it's newer. Never actually even owning or driving the two to compare. My Alpina has a 8speed transmission and that was done by the manufacture to increase fuel economy. Look at the new GM 7 speed manual. Garbage!!! 6speed is the way to go in a performance car. Auto or manual.

I drove the new 8speed vanquish and can tell you I was very disappointed as I expected it to feel diffrient drom my dbs and it wasnt, At all. With that said its a sexy *** car and I wouldn't mind owning one I've seen a few in the low 170s and one just sold for 159K at least I think it sold as it's not listed anymore.

 

So perfect it was quickly replaced with the 8 speed.

 

Apparently a factual technical explanation made you feel like you don't know jack.

The ZF unit is highly regarded in other models and a software update can address "clunkyness".

A half second quicker to 60mph is very significant no matter if you're the slowest in your peer group.

I never stated a 6 speed is bad, but a ZF 8 speed can transform a car if tuned properly.

 

Except it hasn't so far and apparently may never be solved when mated to the Vanquish V12. I'll stick with the old 6 speed, thank you very much.

 

0-60 times are pointless in 99% of situations. It's easy to get improved times to 60, it's a matter of tires, gearing, etc. Those are easily tweaked to give a better 0-60 for marketing. But that's all it is - marketing. Drivability is by far more important. Shifting smoothness, gear selections/timing, matching the gearing to the engine... that's what matters.

Just my 2 pence. I haven't driven a Vanquish so I'm not familiar with the car with either transmission.

 

Meanwhile an 8speed made a vast difference in both the Corvette and the SRT-8/Hellcat Dodges. Not to mention all the other vehicles it is offered in.

So 3 ratios before a 1:1 and 2 overdrive are ideal?

And 99% of the time the 8speed will outperform the 6speed by virtue of tighter gear ratios, all else being equal. The performance benefit assuming tighter ratios is undeniable.

 

Because it's special? Yet Bentley was able to do it with their W-12?

 

Yes. The issue is common to the Vanquish and Rapide, but does not occur in the Bentley. Has been 8 months or so, and no solution from the factory, so they say live with it.