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Aston Martin insurance thread, US/California

Hi all -

I recently went thru a considerable amount of quoting and annoyance on insuring my new '14 V8V roadster, and wanted to share some lessons learned to help those in the future. I found the documentation a bit sparse on the forums.

DEMOGRAPHICS
33/male in zip 90048 (Los Angeles CA)
25/female in same zip (second driver on policy)--NOTE some quotes did not include her but the numbers didnt change much
clean driving record no tickets no accidents for both drivers
Car msrp new - 141k
Bought used - 99k (stated value)

COVERAGE
100/300 bodily injury
100 prop damage
1k med expense
comp - deductible varied
collision - deductible varied
8k miles year

NUMBERS
hagerty - declined to cover
Mercury (6 month policy)
$1,000 deductible: $1,545 premium
$2,000 deductible: $1,475 premium

Travelers (12 month policy)
$1,000 deductible: $3,385 premium
$1,500 deductible: $3,226 premium
$2,500 deductible: $2,962 premium

Geico - !!!! - 878/6 months. This SHOCKED me and obviously I bound it.

Allied/Nationwide/Liberty/Farmers/State Farm posted shocking premiums over 4k/6 months.

NOTES
1. Geico's quote off their website was crazy initially, it wasn't until I used "find an agent" and had a local agent do the work up that I got such fantastically good numbers. Never use the websites.
2. I did not find any website where the "quote me" function worked, or produced a number that wasn't eyepopping. The robo-generators are really meant for the common cars like toyota etc -- you really need an agent/human to quote an Aston.
3. Metromile which is my favorite, would not cover Astons period. I begged.
4. I bound Mercury initially, and after they bound it they immediately sent me a letter increasing premium drastically (300+/6 months) saying that they had to insure my car at its new price for "exotics" despite the fact it had lost 1/3 of its value and I had purchased it after that with documentation. I cancelled it straight away and switched to geico.
5. The best results came from independent agents - i.e. those agents that can shop the rate to multiple carriers. I have never had a competitively good price from a one-carrier only agent, e.g. state farm, EXCEPT for geico which was literally amazing and a godsend.
6. Obviously there is massive variance between carriers. it boils down to who has experience insuring astons and understands them - which it seems only geico does.
 
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Interesting, but honestly not helpful. Why? Because insurance varies tremendously depending on state/city/age/company/driving record/underwriting policies/etc, etc. What was good for you (Geico) may be unworkable for someone else. You basically can't rely on anyone's experience and extrapolate it to yourself. Insurance really bites the big one....

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Lots are using credit scores now, too.
 
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When you consider how expensive it is to repair / replace these vehicles, you can appreciate a good insurance company. State Farm went to bat for me on my total loss:
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I went through a similar pain two weeks ago. My best option was Grundy. Unlimited miles, 300/100 and $800 per year. 38 male. Wife not covered for the Aston.
 
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Originally Posted by jbla View Post
Hi all -

I recently went thru a considerable amount of quoting and annoyance on insuring my new '14 V8V roadster, and wanted to share some lessons learned to help those in the future. I found the documentation a bit sparse on the forums.

DEMOGRAPHICS
33/male in zip 90048 (Los Angeles CA)
25/female in same zip (second driver on policy)--NOTE some quotes did not include her but the numbers didnt change much
clean driving record no tickets no accidents for both drivers
Car msrp new - 141k
Bought used - 99k (stated value)

COVERAGE
100/300 bodily injury
100 prop damage
1k med expense
comp - deductible varied
collision - deductible varied
8k miles year

NUMBERS
hagerty - declined to cover
Mercury (6 month policy)
$1,000 deductible: $1,545 premium
$2,000 deductible: $1,475 premium

Travelers (12 month policy)
$1,000 deductible: $3,385 premium
$1,500 deductible: $3,226 premium
$2,500 deductible: $2,962 premium

Geico - !!!! - 878/6 months. This SHOCKED me and obviously I bound it.

Allied/Nationwide/Liberty/Farmers/State Farm posted shocking premiums over 4k/6 months.

NOTES
1. Geico's quote off their website was crazy initially, it wasn't until I used "find an agent" and had a local agent do the work up that I got such fantastically good numbers. Never use the websites.
2. I did not find any website where the "quote me" function worked, or produced a number that wasn't eyepopping. The robo-generators are really meant for the common cars like toyota etc -- you really need an agent/human to quote an Aston.
3. Metromile which is my favorite, would not cover Astons period. I begged.
4. I bound Mercury initially, and after they bound it they immediately sent me a letter increasing premium drastically (300+/6 months) saying that they had to insure my car at its new price for "exotics" despite the fact it had lost 1/3 of its value and I had purchased it after that with documentation. I cancelled it straight away and switched to geico.
5. The best results came from independent agents - i.e. those agents that can shop the rate to multiple carriers. I have never had a competitively good price from a one-carrier only agent, e.g. state farm, EXCEPT for geico which was literally amazing and a godsend.
6. Obviously there is massive variance between carriers. it boils down to who has experience insuring astons and understands them - which it seems only geico does.
I went through figuring out INS prices and how best to work the process last year when I had a Maserati. Here is what they said. Nationwide. A friend with State Farm, has a home, wife, tahoe, BMW, and 05' Bentley CGT and paid 110 a month for that car as pleasure.

1. For a AM or Maserati, listed as primary vehicle (WORK), the premium was between 270 and 300 a month. This was only a vehicle policy with ONE car on it.

2. If listed as Pleasure vehicle, on a two car policy, then premium would be around 150 a month or little less.

3. If added to a homeowners policy and 2 cars, as pleasure then 100 a month

All full coverage policies.

I now list my 1992 Mustang 5.0 Conv as a Primary vehicle and any others as a Pleasure vehicle with less than 5k miles a year. Keeps the premiums down. Paid for the Mustang in 2 years by doing this and now save money. Drive the Mustang very little. Just some thoughts.
 
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Originally Posted by Zettinger View Post
I went through a similar pain two weeks ago. My best option was Grundy. Unlimited miles, 300/100 and $800 per year. 38 male. Wife not covered for the Aston.
What is your replacement value for your car?? I was just in process to get quote from grundy, they quoted me $1500.for 90K value.
 
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What is your replacement value for your car?? I was just in process to get quote from grundy, they quoted me $1500.for 90K value.
I did 65k value.
 
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I did 65k value.
Nationwide just quoted me:


1. 92' Mustang 5.0 Conv primary driver work vehicle
2. 2010 V8Vantage w/ 99k stated value


Both full coverage, V8 listed as pleasure


2k per year uplift for the Vantage.


Looks like Nationwide is getting ready to be dropped, after a 30 year history with them.


Lets see how USAA or Geico does.
 
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Originally Posted by SheriffDep View Post
Nationwide just quoted me:


1. 92' Mustang 5.0 Conv primary driver work vehicle
2. 2010 V8Vantage w/ 99k stated value


Both full coverage, V8 listed as pleasure


2k per year uplift for the Vantage.


Looks like Nationwide is getting ready to be dropped, after a 30 year history with them.


Lets see how USAA or Geico does.
Progressive quoted me ~800 for 6 month when I bought my Aston two month ago.
This was only good for two weeks till Progressive send me the renewal quote for the next 6 month.
They decided to "revise" the Aston quote to ~1200 / 6mo and additional adding ~100 to my other cars.

Sounds like a commercial now but:
I switched now to Safeco for the BMW's and Grundy for the Aston.
Saved my over 50% for the year.
 
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Allstate made a mistake on my rates

I just got my renewal card from Allstate - it showed my 15 GT as being a V12, then I looked at the original card and it too was listed as a V12, not the V8 I have! They are crediting me the $600 a year over charge. Glad I caught it.
 
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Just to add another idea.

I was denied by about 10 companies for my 2011 V12 Vantage and finally got an offer from Hagertys for $6,500 a year at a $120k valuation. Luckily I had read this thread and realized that was really high and pushed on for more offers.

My insurance agent was able to bundle my home, and 2 other cars into a package with Travelers Insurance and ended up at $1,520 a year for the V12 which I was thrilled with. That is full coverage, unlimited miles, etc.

I am 29 and have had 2 speeding tickets in the last 3 years (29 in 25, and 69 in 60). Sounds like all the insurance companies were scared away based on my age and driving record (which I thought was really good). Both tickets were back in November of 2013 before I wised up and got a passport 9500ci.
 
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I have my 2016 Vantage GT with Hagerty, as well as my 1965 E-Type and my wife's 1963 Falcon sprint.
The Vantage is insured for $143,000 and 0 deductible and 3500 miles a year and $1000 /$3000. The rate is $1600 a year.
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And my 27 year old daughter as well.
I have had HAGERTY for 8 years now and have no complaints.
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I have my 2016 Vantage GT with Hagerty, as well as my 1965 E-Type and my wife's 1963 Falcon sprint.
The Vantage is insured for $143,000 and 0 deductible and 3500 miles a year and $1000 /$3000. The rate is $1600 a year.
59 years old male
And my 27 year old daughter as well.
I have had HAGERTY for 8 years now ab
Ned have no complaints.
Ron

44yrs old, no tickets, no accidents. Only car policy. I don't live anywhere long enough to buy.


My nationwide agent is currently working this---


92 Mustang 5.0 conv to be used as daily


2005 DB9 with ACV set for $70k full coverage (Hagerty's is sister or parent company with Nationwide) This will be an addendum on my policy.


We will see what they come up with. If high, I will try USAA due to military background. I will post the figures when they come in this week. They are currently charging me:


$210 a month for the 92 Mustang and 2013 E class non AMG Merc.
 
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