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Old Apr 1, 2017 | 02:11 AM
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Michelin Pilot Cup 2

With the OEM fitting of the Michelin Pilot Cup 2 to the GT8 and numerous other marques (Caymen GT4, BMW GTS etc) has anyone fitted a set to their V8 Vantage?

They are available in sizes to fit the standard rim 235/40/19 & 275/35/19.

Im thinking about occasional track use and sunny weekend use only, just unsure if enough heat can be generated (especially on the fronts) for road use.
 
Old Apr 1, 2017 | 02:52 AM
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For the track this tire is the must but under the rain or on a wet road it's like a soap...

Sorry for my english I am French I write like a soap to say undrivable and sliding ;-)
 
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Yes,

I have purchased a set of wheels from Redpants in a 19x9.5 and 19x11. (Excellent experience working with Richard) Results below - and I fit 265/35 and 305/30 PSC2 on them - I am very happy with the results
 
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I have had them on my V12VS for a couple of years now. I find they actually have better cool weather traction than the OEM PZero Corsas, and there is no comparison when ambient temps are warm. Just don't expect to power through any standing water with them and come out alive

Use good judgment and they are fine as a road tire.
 
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Yes,

I have purchased a set of wheels from Redpants in a 19x9.5 and 19x11. (Excellent experience working with Richard) Results below - and I fit 265/35 and 305/30 PSC2 on them - I am very happy with the results
Please show pics of these on the car, with some side shots showing how flush they are.

What BC model are these? I got the RZ21's which should be a wider "Y" spoke.
 
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Thank you for your feedback guys.

Obviously these will be great on track.
On the road do you get enough front end bite (heat generation)?

I dont want to upset the balance of the car and end up with something that understeers.
 
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Thank you for your feedback guys.

Obviously these will be great on track.
On the road do you get enough front end bite (heat generation)?

I dont want to upset the balance of the car and end up with something that understeers.
Not having driven a GT8, I can't guarantee it, but if I don't find understeer an issue with my more nose heavy V12VS on Cup2's, I doubt you will on your GT8.
 
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Not having driven a GT8, I can't guarantee it, but if I don't find understeer an issue with my more nose heavy V12VS on Cup2's, I doubt you will on your GT8.
Cheers Spinecho, its for my 2007 V8 Vantage (sorry for the confusion) so sounds good.

Appreciate your input.
 
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Why not PS4S.

I would think that with the usage you have described the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S is what your after. Michelin market them as having been designed for 80% road & 20% track. Redpants Richard has been using their predecessor the Pilot Super Sport on V8 and does lots of track outings.

Having been caught once driving home from the track, in my Elise on track rubber, in a flash downpour I decided that I wasn't going that extreme again unless I had trailer or support car with spare wheels and road rubber.

At the same time I would go to the later sizes, 245/40R19 & 285/40R19. In reality this is what I have just done.
 
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Originally Posted by drac
I would think that with the usage you have described the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S is what your after. Michelin market them as having been designed for 80% road & 20% track. Redpants Richard has been using their predecessor the Pilot Super Sport on V8 and does lots of track outings.

Having been caught once driving home from the track, in my Elise on track rubber, in a flash downpour I decided that I wasn't going that extreme again unless I had trailer or support car with spare wheels and road rubber.

At the same time I would go to the later sizes, 245/40R19 & 285/40R19. In reality this is what I have just done.
In France I don't find the Michelin PS4S in 245/40ZR19 :-(
It seems the size does not exist yet (last page) https://www.am-today.com/sites/defau...-springs-2.pdf
 
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Please show pics of these on the car, with some side shots showing how flush they are.

What BC model are these? I got the RZ21's which should be a wider "Y" spoke.
Will do when I return from business travel. They are the RS40s with a flat spoke design - fit is perfect as I pushed them around the track two weekends ago
 
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Originally Posted by bunob
In France I don't find the Michelin PS4S in 245/40ZR19 :-(
It seems the size does not exist yet (last page) https://www.am-today.com/sites/defau...-springs-2.pdf
Yes these tyres are made in the US. I really wanted a set instead of the Bridgestones and getting tyres in NZ can be tricky, so I just ordered them from tirerack in the US of A.
 
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Originally Posted by drac
I would think that with the usage you have described the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S is what your after. Michelin market them as having been designed for 80% road & 20% track. Redpants Richard has been using their predecessor the Pilot Super Sport on V8 and does lots of track outings.

Having been caught once driving home from the track, in my Elise on track rubber, in a flash downpour I decided that I wasn't going that extreme again unless I had trailer or support car with spare wheels and road rubber.

At the same time I would go to the later sizes, 245/40R19 & 285/40R19. In reality this is what I have just done.
Hi drac, cheers for pointing out the Sport 4S.

The worry I have about these is basically destroying them on a track day.
The only previous heavy car I tracked (a 997s) I pretty much destroyed the standard pzeros with 1 trackday (If you looked at the profile they looked like a jagged saw the rubber was to soft) before changing to the then original Cups.

Wet weather is not a problem (mine is basically a 4th car) , looking at the tread grooves on the cup 2 they are very different to the type of tyre for the elise (A048 or ZZR)
 
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I've been very happy with my MPSS tires doing dual-duty for street and track. So if you want one set of tires that can do it all, I'd recommend the MP4S (which is replacing the MPSS). I'll be putting MP4S tires on my red car when my new wheels are ready, but I'm going to be moving over to the Cup 2 tires on my grey car later this year since the car is becoming a more track-focused car. So my recommendation would be to figure out what your priorities are for the tires:
If you want to be handle cold and wet conditions and want good life out of the tires, but still be able to handle track duty, get the MP4S.
If you want the best track performance while still being able to drive them on the street, get the Cup 2s.
 
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Cheers for your input Rich,

It will be interesting to hear how you get on with the Cup2 on your more track focused car.
 


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