Anyone have trouble filling up gas with SRM fuel system?
my new vent was installed however at the same time Garth found that the wiring SRM used was not Ethanol safe and the outside of the wire was literally coming apart and leaving exposed wire. so SRM made a new plug for me with different wire and sent it over. we just received it Saturday so hopefully today i can have my car up and running again. Once again yet another issue that would have been caught if this was properly tested.
I appreciated the billet fixtures they made but at this point i really regret dealing with them and buying into this thing. I wanted to spend the money and not have to deal with figuring crap out, get a box and have it installed, not waste time assembling my own fuel kit. Been there, done that in my 996tt too many times. Instead a dropped the $$$ on the fuel kit and still had to deal with headaches and about a month of overall downtime due to this system and waiting for parts to fix it, or making parts to fix it, or testing parts that fix it.
If it wasn't for Garth handling this on day to day basis I would have melted all that billet crap into phallic objects and auctioned it off in this thread with a SRM logo stamped into them.
I appreciated the billet fixtures they made but at this point i really regret dealing with them and buying into this thing. I wanted to spend the money and not have to deal with figuring crap out, get a box and have it installed, not waste time assembling my own fuel kit. Been there, done that in my 996tt too many times. Instead a dropped the $$$ on the fuel kit and still had to deal with headaches and about a month of overall downtime due to this system and waiting for parts to fix it, or making parts to fix it, or testing parts that fix it.
If it wasn't for Garth handling this on day to day basis I would have melted all that billet crap into phallic objects and auctioned it off in this thread with a SRM logo stamped into them.
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997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
ESMOTOR | DO88 | TPC DSC | SYVECS | COBB | IPD | KLINE | XONA | AMS | ID | ERP | SACHS | TURBOSMART | CSF | DODSON |
#TeamAIM
997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
ESMOTOR | DO88 | TPC DSC | SYVECS | COBB | IPD | KLINE | XONA | AMS | ID | ERP | SACHS | TURBOSMART | CSF | DODSON |
my new vent was installed however at the same time Garth found that the wiring SRM used was not Ethanol safe and the outside of the wire was literally coming apart and leaving exposed wire. so SRM made a new plug for me with different wire and sent it over. we just received it Saturday so hopefully today i can have my car up and running again. Once again yet another issue that would have been caught if this was properly tested.
I appreciated the billet fixtures they made but at this point i really regret dealing with them and buying into this thing. I wanted to spend the money and not have to deal with figuring crap out, get a box and have it installed, not waste time assembling my own fuel kit. Been there, done that in my 996tt too many times. Instead a dropped the $$$ on the fuel kit and still had to deal with headaches and about a month of overall downtime due to this system and waiting for parts to fix it, or making parts to fix it, or testing parts that fix it.
If it wasn't for Garth handling this on day to day basis I would have melted all that billet crap into phallic objects and auctioned it off in this thread with a SRM logo stamped into them.
I appreciated the billet fixtures they made but at this point i really regret dealing with them and buying into this thing. I wanted to spend the money and not have to deal with figuring crap out, get a box and have it installed, not waste time assembling my own fuel kit. Been there, done that in my 996tt too many times. Instead a dropped the $$$ on the fuel kit and still had to deal with headaches and about a month of overall downtime due to this system and waiting for parts to fix it, or making parts to fix it, or testing parts that fix it.
If it wasn't for Garth handling this on day to day basis I would have melted all that billet crap into phallic objects and auctioned it off in this thread with a SRM logo stamped into them.
my new vent was installed however at the same time Garth found that the wiring SRM used was not Ethanol safe and the outside of the wire was literally coming apart and leaving exposed wire. so SRM made a new plug for me with different wire and sent it over. we just received it Saturday so hopefully today i can have my car up and running again. Once again yet another issue that would have been caught if this was properly tested.
[url=https://flic.kr/p/yUN1uH]

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Last edited by pwdrhound; Sep 21, 2015 at 06:41 PM.
I checked on my wiring on the weekend as well. It's not looking great - as I run e85.
What wire did you use specifically and how did you re-wire the connector in the hat? I'm going to have to redo mine.
What wire did you use specifically and how did you re-wire the connector in the hat? I'm going to have to redo mine.
Connector seal outside the top hat (no swelling)
[url=https://flic.kr/p/yVFHEH]

Connector seal in the tank (slight swelling)
[url=https://flic.kr/p/yCocE6]
Last edited by pwdrhound; Sep 21, 2015 at 11:04 AM.
Just wanted to touch base with everybody as Sean an I have been discussing all this fiasco and trying to come up with something that will make everybody happy.
A little background if I may; When we first designed the 996 fuel kit we had a vehicle to test its operation prior to releasing it to the public. Obviously we wanted to make sure everything worked as we had imagined as well as test the limits before simply putting it out there. We have used the same pieces as originally installed on that vehicle since the start, and haven't even modified any of the pieces with some of the enhancements as per some of our customers requests. Sean's personal car has the same wiring, same pumps, same pieces that came on all our kits, and also has no issues with any of the above. We ran the car hard while constantly checking and monitoring all aspects of the fuel system for over a month before we manufactured or sold a kit to anyone else.
Once a few kits were out there, we had it brought to our attention that the Dorman (aftermarket) fuel vent valves we were using were intermittently faulty. They were working as intended most of the time, but there was one thing that could make them fail. We immediately switched to an OEM supplier of the same piece and have had no more reported issues. We didn't actually have any of these issues on Sean's personal car however we still attempted to recreate the problem once it was brought to our attention. We were able to get to the root cause of why it was happening and replaced all of the defective ones that were out there at our cost. John was more than helpful and patient during the process of figuring that out, and we thank him for that. We also added a separate pressure relief valve to the tank should the vent become blocked and all of the kits made from that point came with said modification.
The venting of the 997 system seems to be a problem as Mark has reported. From the day he brought it to our attention we have been trying to replicate the conditions and come up with a solution. We sent a replacement valve which we tested on a stationary car we have here, but it has no engine, so there is no way we could test it at a gas pump. I'm still waiting to hear back from Garth about whether that worked for good or not. I feel that we handled it as quickly as possible given the scenario, however I completely understand Mark's frustration.
Next up, the wiring. We purchase the wiring from a reseller who has it listed as compatible with gasoline/ethanol as well as most solvents, other fuels, oil, and high temperatures as well. This same type of wire (Cross-Linked Polyethylene TXL wire) is used on almost all OEM wiring. I've personally been building cars for the past 10 years, and using this same wiring from the same reseller with no issues. What I believe happened is that they recently switched their suppliers of wiring to an inferior one that obviously has some issue with gas/e85, as we still do have many kits out there for Audi/Porsche with no issues. We have contacted several customers and had a few who were willing to dive into the tank and check, and reported back with no issues. We are still waiting to hear back from our supplier regarding this.
Regardless, there is definitely a problem. We have decided to change the in-tank wiring to MIL-Spec tefzel aviation grade wire to alleviate the issue. For anybody who has one of our kits and has not already been contacted by us, please reach out to me via the contact info I will provide at the end of this message. There will be no cost to you and we will expedite ship it to you as well.
We want to be known as proactive when it comes to handling a situation like this. So if there are any questions or issues with anything at all, please don't hesitate to contact myself or Sean (itguy)
Kyle LeBlanc
CNC Machinist and EFI Calibrator @ Silly Rabbit Motorsport
702-502-8562 (cell)
kyle@sillyrabbitmotorsport.com
A little background if I may; When we first designed the 996 fuel kit we had a vehicle to test its operation prior to releasing it to the public. Obviously we wanted to make sure everything worked as we had imagined as well as test the limits before simply putting it out there. We have used the same pieces as originally installed on that vehicle since the start, and haven't even modified any of the pieces with some of the enhancements as per some of our customers requests. Sean's personal car has the same wiring, same pumps, same pieces that came on all our kits, and also has no issues with any of the above. We ran the car hard while constantly checking and monitoring all aspects of the fuel system for over a month before we manufactured or sold a kit to anyone else.
Once a few kits were out there, we had it brought to our attention that the Dorman (aftermarket) fuel vent valves we were using were intermittently faulty. They were working as intended most of the time, but there was one thing that could make them fail. We immediately switched to an OEM supplier of the same piece and have had no more reported issues. We didn't actually have any of these issues on Sean's personal car however we still attempted to recreate the problem once it was brought to our attention. We were able to get to the root cause of why it was happening and replaced all of the defective ones that were out there at our cost. John was more than helpful and patient during the process of figuring that out, and we thank him for that. We also added a separate pressure relief valve to the tank should the vent become blocked and all of the kits made from that point came with said modification.
The venting of the 997 system seems to be a problem as Mark has reported. From the day he brought it to our attention we have been trying to replicate the conditions and come up with a solution. We sent a replacement valve which we tested on a stationary car we have here, but it has no engine, so there is no way we could test it at a gas pump. I'm still waiting to hear back from Garth about whether that worked for good or not. I feel that we handled it as quickly as possible given the scenario, however I completely understand Mark's frustration.
Next up, the wiring. We purchase the wiring from a reseller who has it listed as compatible with gasoline/ethanol as well as most solvents, other fuels, oil, and high temperatures as well. This same type of wire (Cross-Linked Polyethylene TXL wire) is used on almost all OEM wiring. I've personally been building cars for the past 10 years, and using this same wiring from the same reseller with no issues. What I believe happened is that they recently switched their suppliers of wiring to an inferior one that obviously has some issue with gas/e85, as we still do have many kits out there for Audi/Porsche with no issues. We have contacted several customers and had a few who were willing to dive into the tank and check, and reported back with no issues. We are still waiting to hear back from our supplier regarding this.
Regardless, there is definitely a problem. We have decided to change the in-tank wiring to MIL-Spec tefzel aviation grade wire to alleviate the issue. For anybody who has one of our kits and has not already been contacted by us, please reach out to me via the contact info I will provide at the end of this message. There will be no cost to you and we will expedite ship it to you as well.
We want to be known as proactive when it comes to handling a situation like this. So if there are any questions or issues with anything at all, please don't hesitate to contact myself or Sean (itguy)
Kyle LeBlanc
CNC Machinist and EFI Calibrator @ Silly Rabbit Motorsport
702-502-8562 (cell)
kyle@sillyrabbitmotorsport.com
Thumbs up for being proactive on this guys. Growing pains are to be expected. Quick question Kyle. I do have the new style rollover valve that Sean sent me but have not installed it yet as I still have the "gutted" original valve that had the check valve portion removed. I did not receive the separate "over pressure" valve but would like to install that along with the new rollover valve. I did not feel comfortable installing any check valve in the top hat without the overpressure protection valve present. Can you send me the overpressure valve please?
Thank you!
so that is 3 weeks my car sat waiting for these parts alone well actually more like 4 because Sean told me the valve shipped a week before you told me it shipped, not to mention the waiting for the other stuff.
you claim your car has been using this wiring for a while - well i don't believe that it looks any different than mine if its the same wire. given I only used it for a few weeks, before i got fed up with not being able to fill my car with gas.
also backing out that small allen pressure relief bolt didn't do anything except make it smell like gas in the car.
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997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
ESMOTOR | DO88 | TPC DSC | SYVECS | COBB | IPD | KLINE | XONA | AMS | ID | ERP | SACHS | TURBOSMART | CSF | DODSON |
#TeamAIM
997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
ESMOTOR | DO88 | TPC DSC | SYVECS | COBB | IPD | KLINE | XONA | AMS | ID | ERP | SACHS | TURBOSMART | CSF | DODSON |
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