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Old Jan 17, 2023 | 06:32 PM
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just to confirm the color codes are

1 - R/B
2 - R/P
3 - Brown
4 - B/W
5 - BLACK

even tho, pin3 says on wire diagram G/S but my wire is BROWN.

this is the code im getting, all seems right even a new MAF.

 
Old Jan 18, 2023 | 12:14 PM
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@i.gonzolv

I agree with BWings, clean up the wires to see the actual colors you have.

As far as the 2005 vs 2006 wiring diagram and colors, they are both the same as per IETIS, with the exception that pin number 3 is green for vehicles prior to 2006, and slate for the 2006.

As far as your number 3 pin looking brown, I think it may be dirty, and is in fact the slate color, as the "G/S" stands for either GREEN or SLATE, not green with slate stripe, hence the " / "..

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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 12:35 PM
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thank you
strange then, i soldered and stink tube the wires to the correct pins still getting that p0102 swapped MAF same p0102 lol .... im starting to think is the ecu itself false reading.

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@i.gonzolv

I agree with BWings, clean up the wires to see the actual colors you have.

As far as the 2005 vs 2006 wiring diagram and colors, they are both the same as per IETIS, with the exception that pin number 3 is green for vehicles prior to 2006, and slate for the 2006.

As far as your number 3 pin looking brown, I think it may be dirty, and is in fact the slate color, as the "G/S" stands for either GREEN or SLATE, not green with slate stripe, hence the " / "..

Did you receive my pm ?

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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 01:08 PM
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Have you checked fuse number 5 under the hood ?

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your the man ty

well good news, yes fuse was burn and replaced which now opened up pandora box of other issues.

mass airflow sensor no longer an issue but now getting these codes
1. p0393 " camshaft position sensor B circuit High bank 2
which more then likey also creating the random misfire on
2. p0310 cyl 10, 8, 12

that will be it, so i ran down my local shop picked up new "camshaft sensor".
 
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Originally Posted by i.gonzolv
your the man ty

well good news, yes fuse was burn and replaced which now opened up pandora box of other issues.

mass airflow sensor no longer an issue but now getting these codes
1. p0393 " camshaft position sensor B circuit High bank 2
which more then likey also creating the random misfire on
2. p0310 cyl 10, 8, 12

that will be it, so i ran down my local shop picked up new "camshaft sensor".
 
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Originally Posted by i.gonzolv
your the man ty

well good news, yes fuse was burn and replaced which now opened up pandora box of other issues.

mass airflow sensor no longer an issue but now getting these codes
1. p0393 " camshaft position sensor B circuit High bank 2
which more then likey also creating the random misfire on
2. p0310 cyl 10, 8, 12

that will be it, so i ran down my local shop picked up new "camshaft sensor".
Hi Guys,

If I can weigh in here with a little theory?

With a P0393, which has a specific definition, - Camshaft position sensor failure, there is a possible second cause even though this code points directly to the camshaft sensor. The other possibility is the crankshaft position sensor (CPS).

With the information given above (Misfires at P0310, P0308, P0312) and since the sensor that reports misfires is the CPS (NOT the Camshaft sensors), I'm LEANING towards the CPS as the culprit here. My suggestion to you, since you're going for the camshaft sensor already, is go ahead and replace it, but if you continue to get random misfires and/or the same or other cam sensors (or, luckily) even the CPS, then go right for it and replace new.

I can explain how the CPS identifies misfires and camshaft sensor failures, but this will get REALLY long, so I'm hoping it's not needed.

Best,

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Once again I agree with @BWings ,
I was reading that last night as I fell asleep, a failing crank position sensor can mimic a failing cam position sensor for certain cylinders, but still allow the engine to run, when my crank position sensor failed, the engine failed to start at all.

So good to know for future reference, thank you BWINGS.

@i.gonzolv , The Crank position sensor is located at the bottom of the transmission 6 o'clock position, or thereabouts, here is a picture of my damaged sensor.

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i'll give it a shot, i called my bentley dealer here in vegas " no go" only 2008 or higher can they work on.

so back to me, i try to look up this part is one hard part to find and bentley told me 4 weeks+ called all my local car parts dealers here and no go as well cant get the part?
question would happen to have i can buy from you?

Originally Posted by Johnny Hotspur GT
Once again I agree with @BWings ,
I was reading that last night as I fell asleep, a failing crank position sensor can mimic a failing cam position sensor for certain cylinders, but still allow the engine to run, when my crank position sensor failed, the engine failed to start at all.

So good to know for future reference, thank you BWINGS.

@i.gonzolv , The Crank position sensor is located at the bottom of the transmission 6 o'clock position, or thereabouts, here is a picture of my damaged sensor.

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Originally Posted by i.gonzolv
i'll give it a shot, i called my bentley dealer here in vegas " no go" only 2008 or higher can they work on.

so back to me, i try to look up this part is one hard part to find and bentley told me 4 weeks+ called all my local car parts dealers here and no go as well cant get the part?
question would happen to have i can buy from you?
​​​​​​Hello @i.gonzolv ,
I do not have one available, I purchased mine from Europa Parts, at $180.00 for genuine OEM, they have one in stock right now.

They also have an aftermarket piece at $70.00 but I have never tried that one.

I know their site has the wording "camshaft", but it is indeed the Crankshaft sensor as pictured and as I purchased, it is also not listed for our vehicles, but it is the same exact part number, it is in my GT.

https://www.europaparts.com/cranksha...01a.html?qty=1

I always drive directly to them, but others have said their shipping is fast.

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