I wonder how it would sound after 8000 rpm if you take the muffler off and go straight pipes. Or, turn all these pipes into titanium ones.

 

that black one on the top doesnt look too shabby

 

do straight pipes add HP? i would think so due to straight out exhaust rather then having it travel through tubing... is this right?!

 

the S54 engine was another one of the e46's strongest suites, it was and is (M roadster) a marvel of an engine and i would have loved to see the e92 M3 retain a 6 rather then going with an 8 just b/c audi and benz are going with an 8

and i agree with a larger displacement they couldve gotten to the 415 mark thats in the V8 with a bored out I6, a V8 is kinda the easy way out...

Another thing is the weight, why so heavy? a CF roof a lighter engine and other weight saving material and still an added 250lbs... this is supposed to be a track car, and a track car at near 2 tons... will suffer terribly in its handling characteristics

Porsche and Ferrari are imo the ONLY car makers out there who are sticking to making cars for a purpose and for a specfic group of people (who can afford ferraris as well) and the M division used to be this group, they are making this M for the masses and like you said, its to satisfy everyone...

This is my edited part im just adding something:

i just saw that 335's are running mid 12's with a few simple mods... wow that hurts the new M3 already, straight line speed e92 M3's are running HIGH HIGH 12's...12.9 is the best ive seen thus far and a few simple mods which will be VERY expensive are going to yield gains, but not to the degree the 335 will have, might as well buy an 335 and put M3 parts on it and have a faster car that looks the same, im sure many many people will start doing that shortly after the M3 bows its head

 

yeah the way it seems now i see no point really to get the m3 over the 335i unless you just want it bc it says and is an m3. i mean it is going to be what 70k maybe more if the stealers mark it up. you can just get a fully loaded 335 for around 45k put 10k into it and the thing will spank the new m3 and it would be a sleeper and you would have 20k left over to put down on a house to park your 335 in

i was all for getting the new m3 but now i am prob gonna get a 335i and make it a beast or get a second job and get an m6 lol

 

exactly! even cayman S' ive seen run mid 12s with 111-112+ traps with only exhaust, headers, and intake. check this out.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Porsche-Cay...lip-10832.html

for the money, ill take that...this car was also on 91 octane. it weights 3150 lbs and u throw some gt3 seats in and youre under 3100 lbs and have a mid 12 second car for a good price, mid engined and fast in a straight line. bmw really messed this one up, granted this is modded vs non modded, but still, the cayman S, no matter how well the new m3 handles, is a better handling car. and also you mentioned the c63, i think from the looks of it now is going to be one hell of car. audi, while the rs4 looks good, its simply to me doesnt do the trick, it is WAY overpriced and WAY underperforming.

 

That trend started long before the E92.

 

yea, but the e46 m3 (as i think you are refering to it) still holds a place in the hearts of many, many enthusiasts. yea it gained some weight, but its overall performance is still today very good in stock form. the e92 m3 has taken it to a whole new ballgame with more gimmicky crap than you find in any audi or mercedes.

 

I think they're just setting themselves up to allow a greater model range 'a la Porsche'... I think they probably saw they could charge a premium for a competition package and the CSL and wanted to do a repeat and give themselves room for improvement.
It's all a marketing ploy... the ///M division is just falling in with the rest of the brand (cheaper interior materials, 325 to 328 within same model designation after just one year..)
They've gone from selling great cars to just selling more cars.
Kinda sad really.

 

Just curious, why would any of you prefer an I6 over a V8??

I see no advantage at all.... and don't say M3's "should always have 6's"... remember they started with the S14 (4 banger).

I question many things in this car, but the motor is not one of them. I think it will be the gem of this car.

 

Glad they reverted back to those rims, looking good!

 

Ya, finally show ppl also not impressed w/ the new M3. It's too big and heavy, like a boat.

 

give me the white one...drool

 

im liking the black one, but the C63 seems to be kicking some ***, and if the trans of the C shifts fast.... ill be that fast to the benz ship

 

I'm confused now??